User talk:MoroseLark

Demon Surge is a good page, but for a few tips This makes internal links, * this makes bullet point, you may want to check Help:Editing.-- Semaj draehs - any replies to my Talk page  15:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Do not forget to categorize pages. Just add to the page or image.--Otherarrow 13:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Brief explanation of categorization
If you create the item page Divine Stone, then to categorize it add to that page If you create the character page Kent, then add to it

There are some other shorter ways for certain pages to I.E for example instead of you can put

and remember add the category to that page, not the page to the category like you were doing before.

Hope that helped. :) -- Semaj draehs - any replies to my Talk page  13:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Game name translations
OK. This may get confusing, so here we go. We use the Japanese subtitle for the game if it was released only in Japan, or if it lacks a English subtitle (like Rekka no Ken). For example, we use Fūin no Tsurugi over Sword of Seals or Binding Blade when referencing the game in articles. It helps with consistency.--Otherarrow 02:31, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind
,but I cropped your Image:Henning.gif and reuploaded it, so it looked better.-- Semaj draehs - any replies to my Talk page  16:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I've been noticing
I've noticed that your articles are often slightly too informal. This is a wikia and expressions like "Juuuuuuicy experience", should not be used. We seek a certain amount of professionalism here and, despite appreciating your work, I would ask you please to refrain in the future from biased or opinion-changing remarks and expressions in your work. Such things should be kept in the Talk Pages. Thank you. 01:20, January 17, 2009 (UTC)

we already had a lot of those weapon icons
But without the space in the image name. I really appreciate the help, but can you check for duplicate images next time.-- Semaj draehs - any replies to my Talk page  16:33, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Weapon Icons
I only noticed what happened after uploading the images. I'll check next time, do not worry. :)--LughRules! 07:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)Engweimin

Categorize..
I see, despite being told before, that you are still not categorizing pages and images. Allow me to repeat: You can categorize images and pages by adding 12:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

RE:Teeny
Well, several things threw me off, such as how you did not have the % symbol there, which makes it seem to me that they were incomplete base stats. That, and you keep putting in data with the names we are not using, (in this case Tinny, which is just foolish looking since the article is called Teeny) kinda makes me not fact check myself since it seems you don't. Sorry for the misunderstanding.--Otherarrow 12:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Teeny Article
I'll watch out in the future too. Sorry for any confusions caused.--LughRules! 12:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

How did you
How did you become a featured user?--Black Dragon Laguz 22:18, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Tear Ring Saga Portraits/Artwork
Where are you finding them? AxeFighterBarst 03:36, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

TearRing Saga
Can you please translate the file names to English? After all, this wikia does not use Japanese as its main language.--Thenewguy34 11:41, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Improving The FE4 Charstat Template
Hi there!

I recently left a message on the FE4 Charstat Template Talkpage. If you wouldn't mind, could you take a look at it if you have a minute? It somewhat involves some of your recent improvements to some of the FE4 character pages (I mean that in a good way!). I wanted to keep you in the know.--Aivass Remurias 23:19, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Aivass Remurias has requested that you give him some time to get some more done so that you guys don't start edit conflicting stuff and such. Is that OK? If that makes sense. I appreciate the help though, I really do! I am asking on his request.--Otherarrow 03:37, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright then. --Engweimin 03:38, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * After Semaj jumped in, and that seems to have worked out well, Aivass said he has no problem with you resuming. Sorry for the hold up.--Otherarrow 04:52, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

FE4 Children Character Stats and Growths
hey Engweimin great job with the children charcter stats for fire emblem seisen no keifu! you just read my mind i was thinking of putting up the growths but i don`t know how to get that grey grid thing you put them in so i stopped.are you gonna get to all the children?if you need the growths or can`t find them ask me i know but thanks now i don`t have to do it alone.Naglfar94 07:32, April 22, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94
 * I agree, I like what you've been doing in regards to that. You've been extremely accurate so far, too. I have a request, though, and I'm asking it early so we can potentially avoid having to fix it after the fact. Instead of having the changes appear like this: Father A: Charstat, Father B: Charstat, Father C: Charstat, and then Father A: Growths, Father B: Growths, Father C: Growths...etc. Could we do this? Father A: Charstat, Growths...Father B: Charstat, Growths...Father C: Charstat, Growths...etc?

If you are confused by that, go to the Lana page. I intend to rearrange it like the way I'm describing. You'll see the difference. --Aivass Remurias 11:07, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, sorry about that. I crossed out that text because I need to think about it a lot more. Nevermind.--Aivass Remurias 11:17, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Progress On The Improved FE4 CharStat Template
After almost 7 hours, I finally got all the way down to Lana and finished that page up, which means we are now done with that little project. It took longer than I thought, maybe because I was noticing little things here and there to correct along the way. I want to thank you for your help. And now, I will rest for a bit.--Aivass Remurias 10:49, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Excellent Editing!
Hi Engweimin! I just had to stop by and say I love the changes to the FE4 children character pages so far! I just saw the changes to the Phee page...superb! Like I said before, very good accuracy. You also seem to have a very nice conciseness where you leave in just enough important information (name of her pegasus, character overview, relationships, etc). Being extremely familiar with the older layout, I have to say I really like this for the FE4 characters. I can tell those edits are taking a long time, as you are being very thorough, so the entire wiki (I'm sure) and myself are extremely grateful for your attention.

Since it looks like you are fixing these pages in one big edit (which is fine), I would like to offer you a tip: You can copy/paste the entire article into a simple word app (I prefer MS Notepad) before you finally hit submit. This way, if someone edits the page while you had it open (likely, since these edits you're doing can take awhile) you won't run into an edit conflict and potentially lose most or all of your edit. It's happened to me before...anyway, this can really help, since you'll have the whole thing temporarily saved in the word app. --Aivass Remurias 04:48, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think I've said this before, but I'm extremely impressed with the way you name the images you upload, including everything necessary in the image title and formatting them all the same way (especially over a rather long time period). Thanks so much for your contributions! I noticed this awhile ago, but after seeing so many of your great uploads I just had to stop by and at least say thanks. I've been busy with the FE9 and FE10 pages, so even though they still need some work, they're far better than they were before.

Also, I've been meaning to ask you about something. Could you take a look in Special:UnusedFiles when you get the chance? I wasn't sure if you had plans to use some of those files, or if you wanted some of them deleted. I can understand keeping the ones depicting Areone and Ishtar for a bit longer as reference or perhaps a reminder, since the single character images of them we have currently are cropped in some places.--Aivass Remurias 06:24, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

TearRing Saga Encouragement
Hey, I just wanted to perhaps encourage you a bit on the TRS situation. When they do move it, it will still be a wikia site, so you can access it with the same account you use for this wiki. Your edits will still exist (as far as I can gather), it will just be in the "All Wikis" column of your edit count instead of for this one...better than nothing, right? I felt almost the same way you do, but I somehow wound up adding to the TRS section a great deal despite not being a big fan, hahaha.--Aivass Remurias 04:56, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll be honest, I don't think we will be actually moving them anyway. Did we ever come to a clear consensus on the topic? I've been just treating them like every other article, personally. I wouldn't worry about it and add to them like you'd add to anything else. Sorry for any trouble.--Otherarrow 05:19, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

hey Engweimin!welcome back!to the wiki im glad your back makeing udates again.i started a music list page for seisen no keifu maybe we can work on it as it`s not yet complete glad your back i have to go now though.71.234.234.240 00:53, April 30, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

hey Engweimin i have a qeustion regarding sety stats in seisen no keifu.well i see on websites that his speed growth is 105 when levin is the father is this true?because what makes me not believe too much is i play this game and he levels and every now and then his speed does not increase is this normal?i mean it`s 105 right? you think we should look deeper into this?or just leave it as is for now71.234.234.240 02:08, May 1, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

FE9 & FE10 Images
I wanted to say thanks for uploading improved images for those games. I'm surpised at how many we don't have...--Aivass Remurias 12:04, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Nice editing
hi Engweimin i see thing`s are going well with the Seisen no Keifu edits you are almost finished with all the children characters.im trying to grab a few screen shots of certain thing`s from my game to add did you see the thor hammer picture i added?i have to take another shot for the tyhrung hopfully much more clear.well keep up the nice work!71.234.234.240 09:47, May 14, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

Question About The FE4 Star Rank Icon
Hi Engweimin. I just wanted to know if the icon you're now using for the FE4 Star Rank for Weapons is from that game or not. I can't recall.--Aivass Remurias 16:57, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

ripping image`s
hey Engweimin I have a question how do you rip thoes image`s from your game? to make them look the way they do? I`m just curious that`s all. by the way nice job with image`s especially the ingame portrait`s you just did. alot of the character`s needed their portrait added to the page.Naglfar94 02:46, May 31, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

oh ok I understand aww darn it that mean`s I cant do it as I do have an emulator I have to take my ingame screenshot`s right off my TV because I have the game`s on the superfamicom.Naglfar94 03:23, May 31, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

a small favor.
hey Engweimin I have a small favor since you are working alot with improving the Seisen no Keifu stuff. when you get the chance is it ok if you add Siglud and Diadoras ghost portrait`s? I put them up but thoes are place holder`s intil better one`s come thank`s in advance.Naglfar94 06:48, June 7, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

thank you thank you!
Hi Engweimin I saw the change you gave to the ghost portrait`s of Siglud and Diadora thank you! they are much more improved and sharpened from the one`s I put up you are awsome! it must be hard getting everything in place you do so much to the Seisen no Keifu page`s they are much more improved now! I also forgot to ask you when you have time can you get Yurias portrait when she is berserked by Manfroy I hope you can get that one too thank`s in advance and keep up the great editing!Naglfar94 21:31, June 17, 2012 (UTC)Naglfar94

Favor
I don't mean to dump anything on you, but since you're working on FE4 and FE5 pages, can you please pay a visit to Asvel?--Thenewguy34( Other) 11:44, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Pamela
I updated some of Pamela's page for you, but not entirely (still missing a few icons and stuff).--Thenewguy34( Other) 20:20, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Note
I see you are starting to work on FE10 articles. With the personal weapons like Caladbolg, can you please add the Weapon Stat template? You can see here for how to use it.--Thenewguy34( Other) 15:12, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lethality
You forgot Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken and Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones: it is present in those games as well (as Silencer).--Thenewguy34( Other) 12:34, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I will do it.--Thenewguy34( Other) 12:42, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Character Template
Using the character template marks you as a character, so I am more or less telling you not to use it on your user page. You can copy the code on the template page and remove the categories I guess (this is what I did when I was experimenting with it on my sandbox)--Otherarrow (talk) 04:31, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Glare Information
On the Glare page, what about the bit about the defense increase for the enemy when it is used on them, and something about this skill making her unable to attack that turn if used? If those are true (can't remember exactly, although I seem to remember them), shouldn't those be added to the effects column of the template? Thanks for the great work you've done on those skills and elsewhere!--Aivass Remurias (talk) 20:56, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

I have a question
I noticed that you have been uploading icons and such to the wiki. I am guessing you are using photoshop or something similar, correct? Can you do a favor for me and remove the white backgrounds off GBA icons, such as this one (Glen shows this white background for this icon)? I do not have photoshop, so I cannot remove the backgrounds. Thanks!--Thenewguy34( Other ) 18:18, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't mind working on the GBA sprites, but they will have to wait until I am done with the PoR and RD character pages.--Engweimin (talk) 12:38, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright. I am okay with that.--Thenewguy34( Other ) 13:48, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Note
Aivass has given us the go-ahead to go Statistics > Stats in articles. He said you might like that, so I wanted to inform you.--Thenewguy34( Other ) 14:08, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * For the record, though, it's ultimately not up to me. It was something I started to do awhile back, but sort of stopped. Back then I had something of an opinion on it, but now it's kind of meh. Using it in article headers should be fine, for more formality I guess, but everywhere else seems a bit too much. The thread Thenewguy34 is linking to pretty much says it all, though. Using it seems fine to me, and I recall you seemed to favor it at one point. That's what he's referring to.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 01:52, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * That sounds fine with me.--Engweimin (talk) 02:35, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

A Possibly Helpful Suggestion
A little trick from Semajdraehs of days long past might be helpful for when you are uploading many new images and categorizing them: If you categorize the images in the comment box before you click "upload", the image will be categorized and ready to go straight away. I thought it might be helpful to mention. Sometimes, it can be a pain to upload the image, go back to it and then categorize it afterwards.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 00:52, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Tarvos and Lughnasadh
Thanks for uploading a better angle (or, rather, images more to do with the weapon, not the wielder) for the featured images on Tarvos and Lughnasadh. We already had one up on Caladbolg, so I figured the other images from before were a step up, better than nothing. Glad you were there and able to improve those.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 08:32, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful
Lovely work on the entry level anima magic pages so far. You are so thorough! I'm so glad that this wikia has you around! =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 02:59, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliment!--Engweimin (talk) 03:10, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Monsho no Nazo icons
I remember asking Otherarrow and Aivass about it before, and said they did not care. Now that I look at the Blizzard icon, it looks pretty good without the background. I guess I will start on them! --Thenewguy34( Other ) 12:23, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * As long as none of the actual icon is lost, which might be easy to do on some of them, Yep. I like this idea.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 05:19, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do be careful when attempting to remove the backgrounds for some of the icons (especially the non-magic ones): They may wind up appearing bare and almost non-existent. --Engweimin (talk) 05:47, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * See, I think that was the logic in keeping the blue backgrounds in the FE3 icons in the first place. It really does make many of the features of the icons, for the lack of a better word, pop.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 06:54, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Adding TearRing Exclusive Magic to Navs
If you must...my position on putting them back on is arguably quite soft now, in light of other things. It does make them a lot easier to find. Merging content from the two "franchises", if you will, is meh for me still...but for lack of a better, more immediate solution, and because I don't feel like making TS exclusive weapon templates (which might be silly anyway), sure. I'd venture a guess that Otherarrow would have no problem or even like it, and obviously you do. Thenewguy34 did at one point as well. King Marth 64 would probably not be against it, and barring a huge revolt from everyone else (read: FE13 says not likely), go ahead, says I.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 05:19, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I personally take the view that TearRing Saga is essentially a part of the Fire Emblem series, owing to the fact that it does, after all, possess gameplay elements that are prevalent within said series. Coupled with the fact that the game is created by the original founder of the Fire Emblem series, Shouzou Kaga himself, I thus don't have any qualms with merging the two franchises together. In any case, apologies for having edited the navigation templates without informing any of the other editors beforehand... Would you like me to revert the changes I have made? --Engweimin (talk) 05:44, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Not at all. No harm, no foul. The ultimate inclusion of the TS pages is another matter entirely. By now, it's safe to say that I more or less know each person's position on it. Folks have been content to kick the proverbial can down the road regarding it, and I can't really blame them. In the meantime, we just add to them like any other page here. Cool. But to answer your question, no, it's fine. I thought I was clear on that, apologies if I wasn't. Thanks. =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 05:51, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Might as well do the physical weapons, too, if you are so inclined. I'm not at this particular time, but not against it, either.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 05:53, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

File:Zaitan.jpg
Can you remove the black from this background please? You do a much cleaner job at larger images than I do. --Thenewguy34( Other ) 00:18, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Former Merge Request and Featured Weapon Page Images
Thanks for clearing up that whole "Dulam/Glower" merge request. I think I did it, but I can't remember right now. You are so right about that. Also, thanks for prioritizing non-hack images over hack images as featured images on the weapon pages (ex. Evil Eye). That is some solid reasoning, I think. There is probably much more to thank you for recently, but I am still sorting though some backlogged tasks. My apologies.

Overall, after the FE Wikia gets over this long-term hangup of legacy names and cleaning off the links that redirect to them, we can begin implementing some more deep editing on existing pages. You have pretty much been doing that all along, though. I guess what I'm saying is I hope to join you in that after more of this legacy name monotony gets completed. Monotonous, but necessary. Ugh.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 01:24, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

TearRing Saga Page Creation
If you have the interest, "Zoa‏‎", "Tower of Morse‏‎", and "Marl"‏‎ have historically proved to be some stubborn wanted pages. In spite of all the TearRing Saga wanted pages I've created, I never really got around to scraping together the necessary information to justify a page creation for those three locations. Actually, for the first two, it was most likely a problem of too much info that had to be accounted for. I was curious to see what you'd say regarding those three and the direction you'd like to go with them.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 10:26, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't really know how best we should go about resolving this issue; I am unable to gather sufficient information on the three locations myself, due to: 1) School-related obligations eating into my free time, 2) My inability to decipher the game's text - Both the original Japanese version and the poorly-vetted translation, and 3) As a result of reason #2, I find myself rushing through the game instead of appreciating the storyline to its fullest. I will only be able to get around to gathering the required information after my 'A's - Which happen to end some time at the beginning of December. :/ --Engweimin 11:48, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I totally understand. I sincerely wish you good fortune when you sit for your exams. Try not to let this site detract you from your goals too much, haha. As stated before, I really appreciate what you contribute to the wikia. Sorry for any trouble.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 12:13, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Fire Emblem UK Event
Hey there!

In case this applies to you, I wanted to draw your attention to an upcoming UK Fire Emblem event.

Best, Jorge (profile)•(talk) 21:04, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Uploading Better Versions of the Files Naglfar94 Quickly Slapped Up Here Makes You A Very Big Deal
I hereby declare it. Like you weren't already...lol. Thanks muchly. Getting to be a fan of some the writing liberties you take as well.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 08:13, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

yo Engweimin
yo Engweimin,

could u plz tel what game this belongs to : (i coudn't get this under the picture but could u mail me the answer to [mailto:chris.daniels@fronter.summacollege.nl chris.daniels@fronter.summacollege.nl] (as u cn see i'm dutch plz english or if dutch dutch ;P ghehehe) ow and if u got anny fire emblem tips about games plz share some thnks anyway.80.57.161.184 03:56, April 20, 2013 (UTC) grtz Chris Daniëls.

Asking About
Hi there, Engweimin! I wanted to bring something to your attention, and I'm actually kind of kicking myself for not saying something sooner, but in your revamps of weapons pages, currently staves, you have been omitting the previously listed locations per game of the respective items/weapons. It's just that I strongly feel those are relevant inclusions toward a total presentation of the given topic (be it Unlock Staff, Warp Staff, etc.) Would you kindly restore those sections back to their former places? Thanks for all of your hard work and dedication to FE Wikia! =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 05:11, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I will try to make a template to organize the appropriate information when I find the time to do so.--Engweimin (talk) 06:22, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

A template? Oh, ok. I would call it Template:ObjectLoc or Template:ObjectLocation. That way, it's universal and could be applied to both weapons and items. Sounds like a plan. Thanks! And great job! =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 20:41, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for correcting the width on one of columns on this template. You are right. I have not yet corrected the demo on that template to match what you have already instituted on the Mend page. I will try to complete that task as soon as possible. That is, of course, unless you get to correcting it first.


 * The format of chapter referral is a related topic, but I wanted to wait until I submitted a formal request to Otherarrow. Until then, though, it would be best if the demo and the one page that currently uses it, Mend, to match, at least. Until then, could you do me a slight favor and wait until I have submitted my request before using the template on any pages other than Mend? I plan on submitting the request within the next 24 hours, 30 at the most. This template was an excellent idea on your part, and I'm glad you are such an outstanding contributor to this wikia! =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 20:38, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I will hold off from implementing the template for now then. Also, thank you very much for the encouragement; It is much appreciated. :)--Engweimin User - Talk 12:36, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome! It's the very least I can do! Admittedly, I'm sorry I didn't get around to outlining formatting for chapter referral or submitting a formal request to Otherarrow as of yet, even though that was my intention. I would imagine that I will have enough time to do a thorough job of it sometime today.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 11:16, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, submitted. I'm just waiting to see what develops. I guess the only thing left is to correct the demo, but I think it's be fine to start adding the Location templates to wherever you'd like.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 11:35, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are doing a great job with those object location templates! Thank you. =)--Aivass Remurias (talk) 14:53, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * I corrected the demo, because I had previously left it wrong. It's at Template:ObjectLocation/demo. I also adjusted some things, like getting rid of the Book 1, Book 2 rows in favor of a more standardized way of referring to chapters. It should work in all cases of what a chapter, paralogue, etc. would need to be called. I made sure the 1st part of the demo was pretty thorough. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page on how this template works on pages. Sound good?--Aivass Remurias (talk) 17:08, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * What you're doing is just fine. I don't want to get in the way of your edits, so all is good. What I have amended is something pretty minor that we can look at and hash out later, after the fact. Great job.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 07:48, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Awakening Character Class Images
How are you going about getting the images you have uploaded for characters in certain classes? (i.e. RIcken, Lissa, etc.) I would maybe like to help out with gathering all different versions of characters, expecially thoses with added hats and details like Donnel and Miriel. As it stands I have just Miiverse'd a screenshot then saved it from the webpage for the post I made which resulted in this (Using L to zoom out): http://i.imgur.com/aI3xTO0.jpg I've noticed that your uploads are cropped and seem even more zoomed in while still being a full shot or as full as you can get.

If you have any further queries, do not hesitate to respond to this message. Thank you for expressing an interest in collating images of the various character models and delegating them to their appropriate pages - I thought I was the only one in possession of a desire to do so. :) Engweimin User - Talk 13:23, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well... First off, I have no idea who you may be. Could you make it a point to click on the "Your signature with timestamp" box the next time you post anything on my talk page? Now that that is out of the way, I shall now deign to address the main thrust of this discussion. The images that I have uploaded are derived from actual screenshots that I have taken of my gameplay, specifically through Miiverse. Before uploading them, I make it a point to crop the images with a simple image-editing software that is better known as "Preview". As to why I do so, it is because the main focus of the images in question is that of the battle models of the featured characters - And by means of cropping, I seek to eliminate unnecessary background distractions (as much as doing so would allow) and fully expound on said main subjects. This is something that I have similarly done for the various FE9 and FE10 characters, as is the case with this one:


 * Sorry about the no signature issue. I'm new to actually posting on wikia and the norms of what to do. So, in the example of the Donnel picture I linked what would be your next steps? Cropping obviously but do you enlarge the image at all? I want to start working on gathering images.
 * Also, I have thought about the children characters and hair color. You cannot make every child have the hair color that is in each of their official artwork pictures. What would you like to do in regards to this issue?
 * Thank you for your help!
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 02:17, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's alright; I don't, in any way at all, resent you for not being in the know of the norms - I was similarly lost when I first started out myself. In any case, back to the main topic at hand. Yes, I would crop the image to focus on Donnel's battle model, but I would refrain from altering the size of the image; Doing so may result in the contriving of highly-pixellated images that will stick out like a sore thumb on the relevant page(s), alongside offending the delicate nature of any eyes that are trained on them.
 * With regards to the children characters... Hm... We should probably work on what we have at the moment, that is to say, grab screenshots of the children characters' battle models as they appear in our respective game files. As it stands, I cannot think of anyone else (apart from ourselves) who would be willing to engage in this furore Also, we may want to consider the fact that uploading images of characters in class lines deviating from that which they are originally assigned to may be redundant, especially considering how the resultant models that ensue are usually ones that feature them donning generic garb that are adorned with various shades of blue, in accordance to their positions as ally units, with naught any uniqueness in their colour schemes. And let's not forget the fact that certain classes are only made available to certain children characters when certain conditions are fulfilled, the most prevalent being that of the identities of their parents. So... Should we just settle for capturing screenshots of the characters in their original class lines or attempt to collate all the possible classes that they can assume? Engweimin User - Talk 02:53, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Honestly, despite beating the final chapter, I didn't get any children except Lucina(obviously) and Morgan so if you needed a pairing done I could get that hair color on my file. I say we just get pictures of classes that the mother can pass down as those ones are not variable. When we are finished we can see if we want to go further or not.
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 03:57, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, we'll do just that for now. Engweimin User - Talk 05:49, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

I just want to chime in and say thank you for doing this. I wish I could help, and it has been kinda driving me nuts as to how the wiki doesn't have these images yet already (and a lot of images and information at that). Despite me not being here for very long, I'd like to see this place bloom with the best information and images that it can get, so you guys getting these is definitely much appreciated. ^^

As for the children and them having all of the classes...I've been wondering that myself, but myself would say to go for it and get them all at least. Might as well be as extensive on the images as the information is on each character, no? But that's my viewpoint on the matter so... ^^;; Xenomic (talk) 06:37, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Your support is one that is rather gratifying, if I do say so myself. :) If it is not something that is too much of a hassle for you, do feel free to hop onto this bandwagon whenever, and assist us on our quest to beautify the aesthetics of this otherwise mundane wiki! Engweimin User - Talk 03:28, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Glad to see that someone is looking forward to this project!
 * Engweimin, I think I've hit a snag. The reason I mentioned zooming in is because it seems the pictures you get are larger than my cropped pictures even. Compare:
 * http://i.imgur.com/CBRfUHL.jpg and
 * FE13 Cleric (Lissa).png.
 * Your Lissa is clearly larger even though neither of us has zoomed in. Which type do you like better. I have been taking my screenshots while holding the L button to zoom out all of the way in-game as to capture as much of their body as possible. I have also unequipped any weapons and stored them in the convoy so they do not show up on their model as to get the clearest view of the characters themselves.
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 15:13, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and uploaded all of Donnel's pictures and added them to his page's Gallery! :D
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 03:24, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well... I would imagine that a plausible explanation for the size discrepancy would be this: When you access the images on your computer, I believe you must have employed the method in which you firstly view the page source, followed by clicking on the "cloudfront" link that is attached to the "screenshot-container" code line. Not sure whether this is the case for you, but what I actually do instead is completely different; In essence, I employ the screenshot function on my computer to capture the image as I see it on the actual Miiverse post itself, a fact that, for some strange reason or another, actually yields images that are larger than that which is viewed through manoeuvring the labyrinthine page source. (And I see you blew up the image's size to 200px, when it was, I believe, of slightly smaller proportions originally) Engweimin User - Talk 03:28, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, that is the case. I am getting the raw image. Nintendo, for whatever reason, has decided that when displaying the screenshot on a web browser it is put into a larger container so it gets enlarged.
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 03:33, January 20, 2014 (UTC)


 * I believe my way to be the way we should do it as it preserves the correct resolution and image quality. We can discuss this :P
 * Bagel Bear (talk) 01:06, January 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * After making a comparison of the two different versions of Maribelle's War Cleric model, I am inclined to agree with you, that is to say, there is a marked difference in the quality of the colours in each one, with those composing the screenshot-container version being far richer than the manual-screenshot one. In short, yes, I would say that we should employ your method to gather the screenshots; I shall get around to replacing the ones that I have uploaded thus far. Engweimin User - Talk 03:06, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

I am quite curious, who all do you have left to do for these (and just how much)? I'm impressed that you're able to get all of these screenshots of the models so far, and them looking pretty decent thus far at that. Can't wait to see my favorite gals when you get to them. :3 Xenomic (talk) 03:36, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm... As I have never deigned to employ numerical values to quantify the immensity of the workload that I am assuming, I am thus ill disposed to give you all too accurate an estimate; All I can say on the subject, though, is the fact that the character cast (intrinsically related to the main storyline, that is to say) is rather massive, and I still have miles to go before I can kick back and revel in the fruits of my "labour" (or rather, "fruit", specifically taking the form of shameless pride in having completed such an arduous task). So far, all the possible battle model screenshots for Maribelle, Miriel, Sully, Virion, Lon'qu, Donnel, Sumia and Cordelia have been uploaded, although I plan to replace the ones featuring the latter two in their pegasus-riding classes with ones that are slightly more zoomed in - All so in order to fully expound on the attire that they don in said classes. Engweimin User - Talk 07:43, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding "Embellishment"
I'd like to point out that I left intact what you wrote as the very long trivia item on Lon'qu, even though I really didn't agree with it (at the time). The reason for that is that I really appreciate your extensive contributions to the wiki and more often than not, I'd rather err on the side of having too much info than too little. Too much infomation can usually be pared down, but when people remove content or want to merge pages and don't fully merge them...that is harder to repair.

I don't want you to get discouraged by recent events that have, in my opinion, only slightly modified your edits, with nearly all corrections touching upon only the most prose-laden sentences. I really appreciate your unique and extensive revisions of pages, provided no content is lost in translation, of course (i.e. the item locations thing).

There is something to be said regarding succinctness, readability, and straight-to-the-point expository writing, though, right? Anyway, I'd like it if we could discuss this more, hopefully with more of the editors who may not understand the value of your contributions (yet). Just know that "everyone", as you said, is not against you, even if it's just me.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 21:47, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * With regards to your perceiving the modifications of my edits as being "slight", I would have to beg to differ - The incident regarding the Lon'qu page is not the first of its kind, and neither is it an isolated one; I have seen my edits on other pages being mercilessly butchered, with expressions that I have deigned to originally employ being replaced by ones that do not function as apposite substitutes for them. Specifically in the case of the Lon'qu page, the analysis of the butterfly that I crafted is one that is derived from the skills that I have picked up during the course of my stint as a Literature student in junior college (the Singapore equivalent of the North American Grades 11-12) - The mitigations that Mr. L95 has deigned to implement is, though "succinct", "readable" and "straight-to_the-point", barely touches upon the essence of my words. (This is not to say, however, that I am condescendingly mocking individuals who may not have a background in said subject; In fact, it is perfectly alright for one to not have any exposure to it whatsoever. As someone who takes pride in the work that he does, I feel it is imperative for me to step in when said work is almost completely discredited and cast aside, almost as if whatever I have done is one that others bat nary an eyelid towards)


 * And all I can do in response is to, with my person glued firmly to my seat, gape at the Special:WikiActivity section helplessly, wondering whether I have done anything to offend anyone with my edits. Can you even begin to imagine how insulted I feel when I witness such incidents taking place, with any requests I make for the perpetrators to contact me on my talk page to discuss exactly what it is about my edits that have stirred their willies being left larg- no, completely ignored? 'Tis akin to being slapped on the face - repeatedly -, in spite of the fact that I do actually bother expending the time and effort to think through the contents that I wish to enclose within the crux of the prose I contrive, without anyone in particular deeming it a necessity to provide me with the feedback that I require to improvise on my edits. All I see is concerted attempt after concerted attempt of "I don't agree with this", "too long, sorry", "fixing prose", etc. - If these are to be perceived as "feedback", what am I supposed to elucidate from their vague, ambivalent natures? What, then, I am I supposed to tweak in subsequent edit projects that I embark on?


 * Also, it will prove to be a challenge for me to be able to achieve the style of "succinctness, readability, and straight-to-the-point expository writing" (as you put it); While I recognise my writing style to be one that is oft pleonastic and sometimes periphrastic, it is one that I have cultivated over - what? - throughout the entirety of the lifespan that I have lived out thus far. Would it be alright for you to be able to point out specific chunks that you perceive to be needlessly redundant, wordy, long-winded - All so I can reread and attempt to vet them in a manner that befits your standards?


 * In any case, my apologies if this response comes across as being no more than an obnoxious rant of an overtly sensitive imbecile. Engweimin User - Talk 03:19, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm glad you had an opportunity to fully explain your perspective here. Also, When I said "slight", I was not referring to the Lon'qu page, actually (saw what was later done to that just now.) Of course I think you have some very valid concerns here. The next time you feel that another user modifies one of your edits in an unwarranted way, I would encourage you to discuss it with them on their talk page, y'know? Again, I like a vast majority of your work. I don't want to see you get discouraged based on something that would most likely be easily resolved with some rational dialogue. Just keep doing what you've been doing, and I guess if there's a problem in the future, we'll cross that bridge when we come it, talk it over or something, yeah?--Aivass Remurias (talk) 08:04, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess there's that as well - Although I WOULD prefer it if I am directly contacted instead, especially considering how the edits made are of ones of my construction. *sigh* Whelp, looks like a compromise (on my part, at least) is underway. In any case, thanks for hearing (or rather, reading) out my nonsensical, heated rant and the subsequent advice that you have imparted. Engweimin User - Talk 14:10, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

"Lengthiness"
I'm sorry, I am the one who reverted Maribelle's personality originally back to the shorter form from before your edit. While I do not disagree that what you've done is impressive, my two cents on it mostly comes from the fact that I can't read it. Maybe what I should say is not that "I can't read it" but it's a little too "fancy" if you catch my drift. I personally feel that things added should the site should be written from a High School level english summary not a college term paper. Ergo we should keep it short, sweet, and to the point. There is such a thing as overanalyzing or over garnishing a sentence. A middle schooler should be able to read the summaries on this site without having to consult a dictionary. But again, that's my own personal feeling regarding your edits on that page.—Nauibotics (talk) 10:47, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm going to add my two cents here and say that the reason I've been trimming those blocks down is because I feel that a wiki should be concise (like what Nauibotics said) and also because, frankly, they sound pretty pretentious with all those words mixed in when you could've said it in a much shorter, easier way. --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 14:33, February 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well... If there is one thing that I'll have to admit, it is the fact that yes, my writing has an uncanny tendency to be extremely lengthy, and as earlier mentioned in my conversation with Aivass Remurias, can hinge on the verge of being periphrastic at times. But hey, referring to it as being "pretentious" is quite farfetched and rather... harsh, if you ask me - I have, and always have, been writing like this, not just on this wiki alone, but also through other mediums, that which encompass other forms of social media (Eg: Blogs, Facebook, Twitter, etc.), right down to traditional pen and paper. Your definition of "pretence" is, in essence, my definition of being genuine; Believe you me, the diction that I employ is one that actually comes naturally to me, before being channelled through my fingers as they fly over the various keys on the keyboard. Heck, I have often been subjected to numerous tellings-off by a plethora of concerned teachers fearing that I wouldn't be able to fully expound my train of thought under examination conditions. Case in point, I actually have difficulties expressing myself in a manner that is "short, sweet, and to the point", or in a "shorter, easier way" - And hence the "over-analyzed", "over-garnished", "pretentious" blocks of text that you have seen me implementing. While I can try to splice down the length of my edits in the future, I cannot guarantee that I may actually lapse into my usual spates of madness - And THIS is precisely why I actually desire for people like yourselves to provide feedback on my work. I seek to become more accustomed to expressing my ideas more succinctly, more cogently; Why, I dare say that I am in no position to proclaim that I have reached the nirvana of writing yet, when my work is one that is not quite approved by the masses (not just the two of you, mind).


 * In this vein, could you please explain why it took you so long to decide to drop said feedback only... now? Especially considering how I have specifically asked for y'all to discuss your grievances with my edits through more edit summaries than one.


 * (On a side note, if said summaries had actually seemed rather condescending, cold, rude, etc. when you first laid eyes on them (Hint: "...rather condescending"), I hereby apologise) Engweimin User - Talk 15:24, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well this issue didn't really start until there was that reverting war on Lon'qu's page. Unlike Maribelle's profile, Lon'qu is a different story since what you put is okay, but I personally don't have enough info to judge what is right in your facts in that page or how to trim it down, so I won't bother to revert what you put. Maribelle on the other hand is different. I'm not saying that you're edit was wrong and I'm quite impressed that your diction is quite expansive and diverse. I'm sort of jealous to be honest. But still I remain firm that, at least for Maribelle's personality section should remain as it was since, really what you added was redundant and just over-embelishing. The way it was was simple and anyone who at least has the reading level of a 6th grader should be able to read it with no problem. Other than that, I'm not trying to be mean or say that you're on the same line as most wiki trolls because you are one of the most prolific users on the Wikia and even though I'm not a admin or anything, I appreciate the stuff you do like gather game sprites and such, things I can't do. —Nauibotics (talk) 19:57, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well... The question that I posed towards the end of my previous response was mainly directed to Bettafishrule2579; Apologies for having roped you in along with him/her - I should have made things clearer. In any case, thanks for the heads up; I will have to admit to the crime of failing to consider the main age group of a majority of the visitors to the site when contriving all those descriptions, and for that I apologise as well. I will deign to ensure that any future text-based edits that I partake in will be tailored in accordance to the reading competency of such individuals, although I would entreat you to raise the alarm if they seem overboard to you. :) [Also, on a side note, thank you for the appreciation; Although I do not specifically ask for it - Heck, I'm merely editing the wiki because I love the FE series to the moon and beyond -, it is still gratifying nonetheless.] Engweimin User - Talk 01:33, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * I decided to give my opinion now because I wanted to wait for a bit. --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 05:01, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Your new edit is a little better but there are still things I didn't find "easy to read". I think to solve the problem I will tone down the diction so it's easier to understand but still gets what you put across.—Nauibotics (talk) 04:38, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have taken a look at the new edit, and have taken the liberty to alter some of the expressions you have incorporated in place of my earlier ones. While keeping things concise is necessary, we should not compromise the overall quality of the language usage, in terms of grammar and expression form. Allow me to explain.
 * 1) When you separated Maribelle's interest in the "plebeian lifestyle" from her aspiration to becoming a magistrate, what you basically did was to make the latter subject redundant and doing close to nothing to elucidate any particular facet of her personality. I have thus reconnected the two to expound the fact that the former has played a fairly pivotal role in motivating the latter.
 * 2) The bit on her "com[ing] off as snobbish and prideful and warms up rather slowly to others" is not just quite a mouthful, but also grammatically awkward; The snobbish and prideful bit forms the first quadrant of the sentence, in which it details the immediate personality that she adopts towards others, while the bit about her warming up slowly to others forms the second quadrant, where its reference to her social awkwardness, while functioning as the by-product of her snobbishness, is still a disparate, standalone fragment of her personality. A comma is thus necessary to separate both quadrants.
 * 3) "However once she has developed a relationship with another" - In this context, as "however" is used to start the sentence, it is thus imperative for a comma to be placed after it.
 * 4) "she is a much kinder and sensitive individual" - The expression, as a whole, is rather odd. For one, preceding "kinder" with the qualifier "much" is rather redundant, especially considering how "kinder". in itself, is a qualifier to signify that the level of Maribelle's kindness is higher towards intimate relations, as compared to hostile ones. Also, the word "sensitive" is a polysemic word, meaning that it carries multiple meanings - On one hand, you could be saying that Maribelle is, in reality, more attuned to the emotions of others and thereafter tailor her subsequent behaviour accordingly, or you could instead be claiming that she is rather touchy and easily offended. I have thus deigned to clarify this ambivalence in as simple a manner as I could possibly manage.
 * 5) "However since most take her at face value" - Again with the grammatical discrepancy, so moving on... I personally feel that the expression "face value" carries objectifying, dehumanising connotations, I have thus replaced the entire block by indicating that her social life was impacted negatively as a result (although I was itching to simply replacing "negative impact" with "detrimental"), alongside citing the noble children's exact rationale for alienating her. Also, "isolation" and "alienation", though bearing similar meanings, cannot quite function as apposite synonyms for each other; "Isolation", for one, is actually voluntary in nature, meaning to say that a given individual may choose to distance himself/herself from a given crowd, and may not necessarily be negative, especially if he/she derives comfort from being alone. This is in opposition to "alienation", in which the individual is actually forcefully expelled from the crowd in question against his/her will, and is always negative in all its uses. In this comparison, "alienation" is thus a better word to use in this regard (or at least that is what I think...)Engweimin User - Talk 09:47, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, that new edit is much better than before. Simple words and it still gets her personality in detail to the readers of the wiki. I fixed some minor grammar and did slight trimming, but overall much, much better.—Nauibotics (talk) 11:35, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Some final touches and... done. Thanks for the help! Engweimin User - Talk 15:12, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, yes. It seems this has come up before, so I will talk about it here. I noticed that you seem rather fond of adding, well, "wordy", for lack of a better word, descriptions of things, complete with unnecessary adjectives and lavish descriptions that don't really add anything but fluff. I am going to be honest with you, some of this is actually rather hard for me to read and understand, and even when I do make it out, it doesn't stop it from sounding just ridiculous (pardon my bluntness). We should aim for clear and concise first and foremost; we aren't writing a novel. On the other hand, you have improved on refraining from adding observations that really stretch things (such as when you tried to argue that the stats on the character named Awakening weapons were symbolic of different parts of their character arcs and...uhh, what?) I am sorry if this is just unhelpful pestering, but I thought I should bring this to your attention. Sorry for the trouble, and good day.--Otherarrow (talk) 04:18, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * As I have mentioned previously, this writing style that you speak of - one that comprises of "ridiculous fluff" (as you so eloquently put it) - is one that is not, contrary to what the common man may think, affectatious, and is instead, one that is akin to second nature to me. I have, and been, conditioned to contrive my sentences in such a manner, and any concerted attempt on my part to splice down my words or write in the conventional "short and concise" manner is something that oft fails to come to fruition, as doing so only leads to me becoming overwhelmed by bouts of OCD - Of the variety that pertains to me being dissatisfied by what I perceive to be immensely atrophied sentences. And then I will proceed to "improvise" with such embellishments like "unnecessary adjectives" and "lavish descriptions". So... Yes, while I WILL have to admit that my edits are wordy, lengthy, crammed with complicated diction and expressions, I'm afraid if you (or anyone else for that matter) feel that I may have gone overboard, the simplest (and most polite, should I say?) method that you should deign to employ is to, through the medium of this intricate Talk Page system that Wikia has been so kind as to provide to its users, convey your confusion, your dissatisfaction, your repulse, in the form of constructive feedback. Not sure exactly how many times I have mentioned this before, but I am receptive to feedback, and I will try to incorporate them into subsequent edits I contrive - Provided that said feedback is not just constructive, but also presented in a manner that is both respectful (and this means not carrying underlying vibes of condescension and rudeness that is uncalled for; After all, respect is a two-way street, no?) and channelled through a medium that I am highly likely to chance upon (ie: This Talk page, and not through edit summaries). I
 * To this end, if I have come across as being overtly sarcastic and rude in my edit summaries, I will have to apologise - But do note that I only express my irritation in such a manner when my edits are butchered and/or voided without any seeming cause. Even worse is when someone does so and leaves naught but a scathing comment in their edit summary, with any feedback that is supposed to be contained within them lost in the sea of biting impertinence. Far worse is when this is done with the only comment left behind is ludicrously vague, such as "Too long", "Unneeded", etc., almost as if it is implied that whatever effort I may have put into creating the edit is completely overlooked and rendered insignificant.
 * Look, I don't perceive my writing style to be impeccable, and live by the principle that there is always room for me to improve. And I recognise that to improve, I will need to seek the opinions of others who read what I write. But if I don't receive the feedback that I desire (and yes, I have specifically asked for it several times), how can I improve?
 * And no, this isn't "unhelpful pestering"; I am actually gratified that you care enough to speak to me with regards to this issue. Engweimin User - Talk 12:58, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...Most of that was just you repeating yourself. Which is also redundant since I am doing exactly as you asked by talking to you about this on your talk page. So the majority of your response was completely pointless and assumes that I am an idiot who can't read less than an inch above my first post here. So yeah, after combing through your response, I am honestly not sure what you want. I've tried giving you feedback, but you've tried your best writing up this essay trying to justify why you shouldn't, nay, can't take the feedback into account. You can't just ask for feedback and then go out of your way to justify disregarding it. That's just backwards. And then you go on to complain about folks not giving you feedback. Huh? Whuh? I don't understand. I am sorry, but I am reading a lot of arrogance and condescension in your post. As you said, respect is a two-way street. You have to give respect to get respect. In that order. You can't just expect respect without giving respect first.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:14, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Rereading your post, I realize you did at least attempt to be respectful despite being kinda peeved at the whole thing, so I apologize for the closing remarks of my previous post. However, I do still feel that there is some degree of condescension there, for lack of a better word. Regardless, I am terrible at determining mood, so sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:16, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * The repetition bit can best be explained by "As I have mentioned previously"; I saw the need to repeat myself, seeing how practically no one actually has the patience to read through the crap I expound anyway. No, I most certainly did not regard you as an ignoramus of the English language, and if I made you feel that way, do accept my apologies. Also, I believe I didn't quite explain it clearly, but I am only irritated whenever my edits are given the axe when a) Proper justification is not given and b) Justification is not channelled through a medium that I will most certainly be able to see it. And about the part regarding "folks not giving me feedback", I was specifically referring to the period of time before you (or Nauibotics, for that matter) deigned to jump in to provide me with feedback, where I was not sure as to what to do with regards to edit summaries, left in the aftermath of my edits' butchering, that were plain rude, vague or non-existent. I most certainly did not justify disregarding feedback! Sorry for the confusion. Engweimin User - Talk 17:55, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

About Recent Edits
English is my first language, yes. The reason I went with "using" over "casting", is that it's using the staff itself, not casting a spell. I guess either which way would've worked, but eh. Whatever I suppose. Xenomic (talk) 02:32, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * For making that assumption, I apologise. But I must point out that the employment of a staff is akin to casting a spell nonetheless, as the wielder essentially calls upon the magical powers infused within it to conjure specific effects, in accordance to the name of the staff in question. Staves aren't merely fancy sticks that are waved about, after all. Engweimin User - Talk 02:38, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose so. Also, about the Torch Staff image, that was just me forgetting to put the "Staff" part in the filename on the page. That's already been fixed. Sometimes I forget some things and that happens. ^^; Xenomic (talk) 02:39, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Sword Names
I noticed that you have started the trend of referring to swords as "Sword Name Blade" instead of just "Sword Name". (For example, Amiti Blade, Alondite Blade, etc). ...These weapons do not have "Blade" at the ends of their names, and are to be referred to as just their actual names. Geez.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:50, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay? I actually find it odd to simply refer to the swords with their names alone, as they are but mere inanimate objects; I only use names in a standalone fashion (without adding any additional appendages) when referring to human/humanoid individuals. After all, it would seem rather far-fetching for one to start embarking on a crusade to anthropomorphise these... items now, would it? Well... If this irks you that much (or at least, that is what I can glean from the underlying intonations of exasperation and vexation that your choice of adopting "Geez" seems to entail), I can deign to leave out any "unnecessary" extensions in future edits. Engweimin User - Talk 16:14, March 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's how the weapons are referred to in the games itself. They are not referred to as "Name Blade", but as just "Name". You don't get to decide on a whim what a weapon is called just because you think it "sounds better". If it really bothers you to refer to them in as if they were people, "the Name" also works. The Amiti. The Alondite. That is an acceptable way to refer to an item in English. (For example, "I pick up the clock" is acceptable, while "I pick up clock device" is not, and "I pick up the clock device" is, while technically acceptable, also awkward and unnatural sounding). I hope this helps.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:21, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Id say not even technically acceptable, as they're names(which can be adjectives, but not in this case) and not adjectives. Which is why "thunder axe" works, but not "Armads axe" does not, as Armads is not a descriptor, it is a name. There is one Armads, and there isn't an "Armads sword" that would need to be differentiated from. (But yeah, the game just calls them "name" so yeah lol)L95 (talk) 16:54, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Otherarrow: While I understand where you are coming from, I must inform you that your analogy is not quite apposite - The term "clock" is technical, when you compare it to an actual unique name, like say, "Amiti" or "Sieglinde". So while referring to the technical "clock" with its even more technical category "device" does undeniably seem weird and unnatural, I am afraid I cannot agree that the same can be said of the latter case - I still stand by my earlier conviction, and will even go so far as to say that adding the technical term behind the unique item's title results in it being referred to more elegantly (or at least, I perceive it to be so). Also, as it has been established that I am willing to tailor all subsequent edits in accordance to your vision, I would have to apologise if I have, in any way, compelled you to type up this little English lesson of yours in an attempt to justify your initial grievance.
 * Now, I must also address the diction that you have taken the liberty to employ, which, to me at least, hinge dangerously on the verge of being borderline condescending (and needless, might I add) Look, when I implemented those offending appendages, I most certainly did NOT do so out of a "whim". Do you even know what a "whim" is? "whim (hwĭm, wĭm) 1. A sudden or capricious idea; a fancy. 2. Arbitrary thought or impulse"  My having referred to weapons (and items in general) in such a manner thus far is done entirely out of goodwill, in a bid to improve the language usage (in accordance to above-stated reasons) on the appropriate articles; Heck, I didn't even realise that it would be imprudent and inappropriate for me to do so... until now. So for you to even insinuate that I have been particularly audacious and insolent in making such a decision without first seeking the consul of others is rather... uncalled for. In fact, on this note, if you did not like the way I referred to the weapons like this because you perceive it as "wrong" by your definition, then why did you not raise your grievance with me before it warped into a, as you put it, glaring "trend"? How was I supposed to know that I have been doing things "wrongly" all this time when I was not specifically alerted to my "mistake"?
 * L95: Not sure what I might have said to lead you to believing that I have been using the names of these weapons as adjectives, but no, I most certainly have not. Instead, you might want to look back on what I have previously said about differentiating these inanimate objects from human beings. Apart from this, you might also want to consider how a majority of these names are derived from characters of the same name appearing in yore, all of whom, might I assert, happen to take on humanoid appearances. So I would say a differentiation is necessary in this regard, although, truth be told, if the general consensus around these parts disagrees with me, then blegh. Engweimin User - Talk 17:46, March 4, 2014 (UTC)