User talk:Otherarrow

For past messages, see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. Thanks

For messages left here on this talk page, I will respond on this talk page. It gets confusing and tiresome having to jump from talk page to talk page to read a conversation or add a comment.--Otherarrow 04:50, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sweetheart!
I love you more than I carrots and potatoes! We'd been together for so long! And I'm on top! I love you so much, my wonderful person! Thanks for being my lover for so long already. ^_^ --The Tomato Fairy (talk) 06:01, May 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Aww, thank you sweetie. I love you very much, and I want us to be together for longer still! You are the best.--Otherarrow (talk) 06:04, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Awakening DLC Scripts
http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Awakening_DLC_Script

Thought I'd share that here. I might add these to the wiki and whatnot (they're kinda insightful on how characters would interact with one another, I must admit. Will make working on my hack a bit easier~). Though for the character-specific things, would they go on the character's pages themselves (such as Lucina vs Marth dialogue, or Tiki vs Tiki dialogue)? Xenomic (talk) 06:30, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm...Yeah, I don't see why the character specfic stuff wouldn't go on the character's pages. And yeah, if you can add those, that would be great!--Otherarrow (talk) 11:11, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * A bit late, but got quite a few of the DLC scripts done (Rogues and Redeemers 1-3, Smash Brethren 1-3, Lost Bloodlines 1-3, and Champions of Yore 1-3). There's still a few more to be done as per my To-Do List (The Future Past 1-3, Harvest Scramble, Summer Scramble, and Hot-Spring Scramble), but for the most part, the scripts are pretty close to done! Still not sure about the dialogue though. I mean, the battle dialogue can easily go onto pages I suppose, but actual conversations, such as Tiki/Pr.Marth, Nowi/Arden, etc. would make a page bloat up. Maybe...I'm not sure on how to handle that bit lol. Maybe I should ask in the thread?
 * Also, it seems that the only thing I have to write down for FE12 are the base conversations. Remember when I asked if we should put them all in a "Base Conversation" page or like Support pages?

http://www.serenesforest.net/fe12/base.html


 * Yeah, I found this. This shows how many there are...having them all on one page would make the page EXCEPTIONALLY huge...but having them like supports could work (if albeit a lot smaller than many of the other support pages). I wouldn't know what to name them though (Caeda/Base Conversations? Caeda/Support?), and Tiki's would need to go on her Support page outright I think. It's confusing lol... Xenomic (talk) 20:44, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, treating them like supports would probably be best. Base Conversation seems right, since they are technically separate from the in game Support system (it's complicated). As for the SpotPass conversations, yeah, it would bloat the page. Maybe have another subpage for just battle conversations? I know they tend to bloat pages as it is, even in other games. But go ahead and ask. Outside feedback has helped us out before.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:19, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Aye, they are separate. Though that'd cause only issues for Tiki seeing as she already HAS a Support page but...ehhh. Whatevs I guess lol. I'll figure something out later if the thread doesn't tell me anything lol. Xenomic (talk) 21:30, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

A bit of a naming mess
I was renaming Granion to the proper name Kranion, during this, I realized there was another page "Kuranion" (another interpretation of the same kana (but this one is actually a correct interpitaion unlike Granion)) I know I marked "Kuranion" for deletion, but Kuranion is used through the site a lot more(well, it is used in the templates and such? I have no idea how to change the name in the TRS template), would it be easier to delete "Kranion" (formerly Granion) and rename "Kuranion"? I'm sorry for the mess, I hadn't realized Kranion had two pages under two different names @_@ L95 (talk) 00:26, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * I deleted the offending pages and tried to clean things up. I just deleted Kuranion and fixed up the Kranion page, since both pages were pretty devoid of content anyway but one is at the right name. Wow. I didn't know we had two pages for that dragon, nor that dragon was actually one of the four plot important dragons. How did this happen? Thanks for the heads up all the same! EDIT: As for editing the TRS nav, just type Template:TS into the search bar and it should take you straight to the code of the nav, were you can make changes as you see fit.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:00, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

GIFs
So, just uploaded quite a bit, and well...here's the dilemma. While the transparent GIFs, such as on Zephiel's page, are good, they don't seem to be animated properly, as say in this particular image. I put some of them up for deletion, but I'm leaving it up to you guys if you think these should stick around or not, or if anyone around would be willing to try and redo the GIFs at the proper speeds... Xenomic (talk) 01:21, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. If the "lone" ones aren't animated properly, then by all means replace them with the others. We never got an answer on the thread on which they preferred, but I do think we should go for everything working properly first and foremost. If that makes sense. Sorry if I am not much help.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:25, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I'll probably raise the question again on there to try and get some more feedback. So those that got set up for deletion that are GIFs, feel free to unmark them and put them onto pages if you see fit then I suppose. I'm going to continue ahead and put up the other ones that need to put up. We can probably leave the ones that are transparent on the wiki until further notice. Xenomic (talk) 01:27, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Yeah, we probably should put them onto pages soon, shouldn't we? Forgive me for being a lazy grump, but can you get back to me once you got everything uploaded so we can put it up all at once? Sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:14, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I already got everything that I had available uploaded and put on pages for the most part. Including all on the Critical Hit page. Not all critical animations are on there though IIRC. Xenomic (talk) 02:18, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see then. Well, thanks. Sorry that I wasn't much help. While we are on the subject, do you know a place we can move these animations out of the galleries (where they can't really "play" due to being shrunk to fit, unlike the icons) and into the articles proper? Or should we not worry about it?--Otherarrow (talk) 02:22, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't worry about it. It'd be a pain to try and get them to play normally due to how big they are (keep in mind, these I got from a LP, and so the size is probably larger than what would be in a normal GBA game), as you HAVE to have them at the same size as their original uploaded size. This was something the FFWiki was discussing a few years back, and we decided to not go with GIFs due to this problem. However, here it's not so much an issue as well...how're you gonna capture a critical animation otherwise, right? Of course, having them as transparent gifs would be better but...that requires having someone that could do that. ^^;; Xenomic (talk) 02:29, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I see I see. Alright, I get you.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:39, February 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * There are many ways to resize gifs, (I use this: ezgif.com/resize/) I noticed that if a gif is smaller, it'll still animate if blown up, but not if it is bigger and shrunk(Noticed this on the saints staff page). L95 (talk) 03:38, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Odyy...
Some user named Odyy was attempting to make a fanfiction on a page, he wants to make fanfictions on this wiki. What's your say to this?
 * So let me get this straight, this guy shows up asking for details and discussion on the forums about a fanfic he is writing, and you then start harassing him for no reason about something he didn't do. I didn't see anywhere that he was going to add the fanfic to the wiki, he just wanted to discuss it on the forums. Sorry buddy, but it does look like you are the bad guy here.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:09, February 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not the "bad guy", I was the "confused guy". I thought he was writing a fanfiction! Ok? And I have feelings too! Last time this happened in worms wiki the vandal kept on writing it. And now I thought it was happening again! Ok!? IF YOU READ THE "ASSUME GOOD FAITH" SECTION OF THE WIKI INSTRUCTIONS YOU'D KNOW I THOUGHT I WAS HELPING, NOW STOP SCOLDING ME, THAT'S MOM AND DAD'S JOB (I wasn't yelling, I was making that last phrase pop out) (100.40.133.204 16:18, February 9, 2014 (UTC))
 * Don't yell please (or "pop" or whatever you were doing). You need to assume good faith as well, you know. The guy even said that he wasn't planning on adding fanfic to the wiki yet you kept harassing him to "go back to fanfiction.net", without even listening to him. Now that was just rude.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:29, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

........ (anon, he'll never listen, just give up! NO! You got anger issues. I know...) *sigh* why doesnt anyone listen to me?
 * Pardon? I have no idea what you are even talking about. Calm down. Take a break if needed.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:42, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Catalena
Bar the coding mistake I made I see no reason for the removal of the quote I put in. She does say it, if you'd like I can provide a source for this information Yoshi876 (talk) 20:41, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, nothing like that. I removed it because the same quote is the article topper and I thought having it twice would be redundant. Sorry if you took offense.--Otherarrow (talk) 20:59, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries then, I was just curious because it wasn't mentioned in the edit summary. Yoshi876 (talk) 21:09, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad then. I probably should have noted it.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:13, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Er...
Just curious, but couldn't you have renamed those files that you deleted instead of deleting them? The only thing wrong was the filenames (which I did leave a message on the uploader's talk page while he was uploading the images). It just seems like more work just to redo all of that instead of just renaming and then fixing the links. Hell, -I- could go around and change the names appropriately on the pages if I must...(I did try to rename the files, but I don't have that power here soooo yeah lol). Xenomic (talk) 21:05, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * There were so many and moving images is such a hassle and I was busy with real life stuff and that took the least amount of time. Sorry. Do you want me to restore and move them? But still, I am really annoyed at this kind of thing, since picking a not sucky filename takes like zero effort, so if they can't even put in the effort to do that... At the very least, they could have looked at similar images and gone "huh, my filename sticks out like a sore, poorly chosen thumb". Sorry again.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:34, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I know. I get annoyed at people not renaming files as well. I'll tell you what, you rename them as how Eng has done them, and I'll set them up on pages. Unless you want to wait and see how I name them on the pages first? I'll get right on that actually... Xenomic (talk) 21:42, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * That would probably be best. Sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:47, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Should've checked the history of Morgan's page first probably. It was listed there.

http://gyazo.com/1b999eb907d3edd9763ba6425c8775c2


 * Use this to try and find out which ones is for which. If you have to, since you made the links redirect to what they are now, type in the original filename and go from there. Xenomic (talk) 22:21, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's the thing, in my scramble to try and get them to the proper filenames (since Falcon Knight was a Dark Flier, and Pegasus Knight was at Falcon Knight) I kinda moved them all around and somehow Dark Flier ended up out and out gone while both Falcon Knight and Pegasus Knight were dups of the Pegasus Knight. I majorly fucked up. I'm sorry. I fucked up twice over today.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:25, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

If you could real quick, please rename File:FEDS Bishop Map Sprite.gif to File:FEDS Bishop (M) Map Sprite.gif. Thank you, and I apologize for the inconvenience. ^^;; Xenomic (talk) 01:06, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

New background for wiki?
So, I have someone that may be willing to make a new background to the wiki. I'm sure you can probably implement it in both Oasis and Monobook (if not, I'm pretty PRETTY sure JBed, Catuse, Drake, or one of those guys over at the FFWiki can help you out with that). Would you be willing to have a background to the wiki at all? Xenomic (talk) 09:34, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Zahlzeit set up a background for Oasis, and I think it's at least passible (it beats the old Oasis background we had at least.) I personally like the white on Monobook, but it's been pointed out that the wiki is lacking in the good visuals department, so sure. What is it?--Otherarrow (talk) 15:39, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure yet, still waiting on her to do the mock-up. Once I get the image, I'll post it here for ya to check out. Xenomic (talk) 20:37, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:02, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Translations Pages??
So, here's food for thought (which I will post in the thread on Serenes Forest, as well as to others on the wiki), but perhaps we should have a translation page for each game, similar to how the Final Fantasy wiki does it? Such as...http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy/Translations for instance? Or any of the translation pages on that site thereof? I feel it'd be of great help on this site, plus it's something I feel that should be on the site to begin with. It kinda pains me to remove most of the stuff I've been removing on the Character/Weapon/Item pages for games as there's no other good place for them, but after thinking about this today (after doing FE2 and starting FE4 for the character pages), thought it'd be something to think on. Xenomic (talk) 01:05, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can definitely see a good use for translation pages like the one you've linked from the FFWiki. I do think we should have something like that here.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:20, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I may try a mock-up for a page then for FE1, as well as the translation template that the FFWiki has (simple copy/pasting code is all that's needed there). That'll be after I take care of all of the character pages. The FE4 one is going to need some help as I don't know all of the bosses for that game... Xenomic (talk) 02:50, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would work. As for the FE4 characters, if all else fails, you can just look up the nav template and follow the links from there. That's what I'd do at least. Sorry if I am not much of a help. (However, do note that the NPCs for both gens are out of order...for some reason I am not entirely sure of. I should probably get around to fixing that.)--Otherarrow (talk) 03:04, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well...I tried to put in the Translations template from the FFWiki, but that didn't really go well. If you can, see if JBed wouldn't be willing to help out. Just have him jump over to Template:Test to try and figure out how to get that working. I already brought over the Tnav and Transclude templates, but not sure what else is missing for this to work right...and since I'm assuming it was JBed that made the template in the first place, he'd know what to do. I'll probably start the actual translation pages in the meantime. We'll be linking them to the game templates, but the Translation navigation template would be nice to have methinks. Xenomic (talk) 02:43, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * You can't get it to work? How strange. Well, the next time he comes around, I will try to point him towards it if I remember. Sorry. As for a translation nav...hmm. I can't see the harm.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:48, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * It is quite bizarre. I only saw two templates that the FFWiki was using for it, and those are what I transferred over so I don't know what else I'm doing wrong...templates AREN'T my strong suit, believe it or not. The FE4/13 ones I just knew how to deal with mostly because it's just table coding in reality with those. This one? This one has some funky HTML stuff that I don't know about (is it HTML? I don't know really...it's coding that I don't know how to deal with myself...). Xenomic (talk) 02:52, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, you know much more than I do, so I can't help until I can find JBed. Geez. Why can't anything be simple?--Otherarrow (talk) 03:04, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * If it were simple then...I dunno, insert willy pun here? ^^;;


 * In any case, I set up the Translation page for FE1. Give it a look-see and see if you think that's the best way to set it up. I'd LIKE to use the tables that the FFWiki uses, but well...I think that's CSS specific and all that. The tables we have will just have to make due I suppose (we can't actually color-code anything with the default tables we use it seems so...). Xenomic (talk) 03:06, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * The only thing I can think to add is a fan translation column, for when what we got from Shadow Dragon differs from fan translation.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:13, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that is something that should be added. For which games should it not be added for? Xenomic (talk) 03:18, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably just Tear Ring Saga. Yeah, the first five games weren't localized, but Awakening has given us enough names that it's worth noting yah? A lot of characters with "N/A" (or whatever) in those sections though. Shrug.EDIT: We should also have official romanized Japanese names as well, for completions sake.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:22, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Please tell user 63.92.248.201 to stop adding their original characters to the class pages?
63.92.248.201 is adding several original characters that do not exist. I don't feel like continuously undoing their edits. (and I included the reason why in the edit comments) L95 (talk) 23:56, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I blocked the guy. Sorry about that, I was briefly busy with real life stuff. Thanks for taking care of things though, you and Xeno both!--Otherarrow (talk) 00:45, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the "Gheb" Page
I think its safe to open back up the "Gheb" page for editing. The Gheb thing died off years ago, and the "Gheb" page itself isn't that great...Crea756 (talk) 14:28, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sure.--Otherarrow (talk) 14:24, March 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Really, i dont think anyones played GhebFE or GhebSaga in like 3 years.  GameFAQs stoped talking about him too...Crea756 (talk) 14:28, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I didn't mean that as sarcastic so much as...dismissive? I really don't care about this Gheb thing either way. As you noticed, I unlocked the page.--Otherarrow (talk) 14:34, March 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * I notice the Gheb page is locked again. Could you unlock it so I or someone else can fix the stat template? The page can be re-locked immediately after the template is fixed. Codefreak5 (talk) 00:55, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah. Folks went back to vandalizing it again, proving that the Internet never forgets. I'll unlock it.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:39, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Instead I just fixed the stat template myself.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:43, October 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay, thanks. He's still missing his hard mode stats, though, so you may want to add them or have those added as well. Codefreak5 (talk) 01:46, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Awakening Children Hair Colors
Was wondering if you would be interested in having images of the children character's possible hair colors? I am currently doing a playthrough in awakening and could get decent images of all children character's hair colors (Minus Brady). from all parent characters (Minus hair colors only inherited from avatar and Chrom)

I'll be making the images for myself anyway but if you would like them on the wiki let me know. Tiero (talk) 14:56, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Obviously I'm not Otherarrow, but I reckon it would be a very useful resource in any case. Would you be using Miiverse screenshots? The quality is slightly worse, but not noticeable unless you want to rip them or something. I just got a capture device recently, but I'm way too busy to grab stuff from Awakening. Aveyn Knight (talk) 15:44, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * I had planned on using my phone to take the picture. (I get almost screenshot quality pictures, it has a really good camera) but I will try Miiverse first as they would probably be better quality. Then I will put the name of the father/mother that gave the child their hair color on the picture itself and the make a collage to keep the image gallery cleaner.
 * I assume these should go on their respective character's pages?Tiero (talk) 15:52, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow, I'm surprised about the phone quality. I think Miiverse is probably safer, but it will be very tedious... Well, if it's just for reference, phone pictures might suffice, but I'll leave the rest to Otherarrow. Aveyn Knight (talk) 15:57, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah Miiverse works and is better quality. It takes a little longer but I'm definetly using it instead. thanks Tiero (talk) 16:02, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, go for it. I can see how the hair colors would be useful to have.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:00, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Cool, it may take a while before I add them, I still have Supports that I need to build and then I will have to do the editing. Tiero (talk) 17:05, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, as for phone versus Miiverse or whatever, as long as it isn't obviously a screenshot of a 3DS, I am fine. But yeah, it's OK if you take your time. Thanks for all the help!--Otherarrow (talk) 17:15, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem. I just changed my wiki avatar to a screenshot I took with miiverse and cropped on my Laptop. That's probably what I'll have the pictures look like. Tiero (talk) 17:28, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * Your pictures look great, but j-just one thing, can you save them as png? The jpeg compression on otherwise great quality images makes me sad :c (Unless your phone auto saves them as jpg or something) L95 (talk) 19:39, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * These aren't from my phone, they are miiverse screenshots that I then edited from my laptop. Unfortinately I have no idea if or how I can change it to a png. Sry :( Tiero (talk) 19:47, March 21, 2014 (UTC)


 * I have copied this conversation to my talk page so please everyone comment on that instead. That way we can stop flooding Otherarrow's talk page. Tiero (talk) 20:31, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

69.126.57.20
This IP address has Vandalized Henry's page twice now. Thought I should let you know Tiero (talk) 16:03, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about the trivia errors I made. My eyes skimmed over final by accident. I was just trying to contribute....

Someone is going and changing what the games are numbered as.
I don't care personally, but just wondering if it should be discussed? (more specifically, BS FE is considered FE5, and all games after that are bumped up.) This was stated in an official interview. Also, I think stuff like FE5 are redirects, so those would need to be fixed too. L95 (talk) 15:20, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The numbering is basically for convenience, on both sides, and the games are not numbered in of themselves. Since we use "BSFE" for Akaneia Saga, I don't see the point of shifting the numbers solely so that it "fits", since we don't need it to fit since it already fits. So there is really no need to bother. Quiet frankly, IS has been inconsistent on if BSFE "counts" as part of the numbering anyway, and I am not sure why it would, since it's basically a few bonus Mystery maps with voiced lines in standalone packaging. It's a spinoff. Also, it would take way too much work to move everything forward a number for something that will probably be forgotten about in a few years anyway.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:29, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Crystals named after tinctures.
The tinctures in heraldry are

Metal:Or (Gold), Argent (Silver)

Color:Gules (Red) Azure (Blue) Sable (Black) Vert (Green) and Purpure (Purple)

And then the furs which don't have the crystals named after them. So yes I'm positive the crystals in the shield of seals are named after the tinctures.

http://www.internationalheraldicregistry.com/uploads/5/7/5/5/5755206/3707747.jpg?546

Terff 21:49, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * It doesn't even cover all the tinctures, and, again, those are just alternate names for the colors of each of the spheres. The Lightsphere is white/silver, the Darksphere is black, the Starsphere is blue, the Geosphere is green, and the Lifesphere is red. The new names of each of the spheres is based on their existing colors, not an incomplete reference to some irrelevant concept.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:34, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think they brought up a valid point. It seems pretty clear to me that NOA based the crystal names after something and the tinctures seem to match.


 * Also, the crystal names in the Japanese version are totally different, so it doesn't really matter that the English names are an incomplete reference. Besides, we had the Tellius races named after runes and not every rune was used, only three or four out of dozens. Aveyn Knight (talk) 17:09, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Unlike the case with the rune names, I am pretty sure that those alternate names for those colors didn't come from tincture though. The tincture is named after the existing alternate names for the colors, which comes from other languages I believe (off the top of my head, Argent is Italian and Azure is...a lot of things, but I think it has it's roots in Latin), and not the other way around. If I recall, the orbs in the Japanese version were just named after their colors aren't they? The English translation did the same thing, but used a different language because calling the red orb "Red" would just sound silly to English speakers. So...yeah to conclude, I do think it veers towards a massive stretch to assume that the renamed orbs, which are still named after their colors, comes from something unrelated that also named its colored parts after their colors. Shrug. Sorry for the trouble, but I do think this idea seems like a bit of a leap in logic.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:45, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, Gules is a color that definitely originated from heraldy, and didn't just spork the name from somewhere else like the rest. So maybe it might be that after all. Shrug. Sorry again for the trouble, but when I see "this uses these foreign names for colors and this unrelated thing uses foreign names for colors, it's clearly a reference and not just both using foreign names for colors", I tend to get rather suspicious. Sorry again.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:54, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

all i did on my talk page is use pictures from the wiki, oh is that illegal or something
 * Not really, but it clutters up the page and makes conversations harder to follow. Sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:34, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

oh ok sorry i didnt realise- posted by ff13vanille

Teeny
Someone Messed up the Image at the top of this page. I undid their edit but it still looks messed up. I'm not good with fixing the way images are displayed on the wiki so I thought I should let you know instead of trying to fix it myself User:Tiero (talk) 18:21, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, this seems to be a Wikia problem, not anything to do with their edit. If anything, they noticed it too and tried to fix it.--Otherarrow (talk) 20:55, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok. Really sorry if I made it worse then User:Tiero (talk)Ephraim (Lord).gif 18:21, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * You didn't do anything wrong. Also, sign your posts.--Otherarrow (talk) 13:50, April 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I had Messed up my signature to the point where it wasn't really usable. I somewhat fixed it now though User:Tiero (talk)Ephraim (Lord).gif 18:21, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Jahn
I partially restored the notes section, though noted that the sixth game came before the seventh, which revealed the Dragon's gate. You can take a look, and tell me what you think. Emperor Hardin (talk)
 * Yeah, referring to a character not knowing of a plot thread that flat out didn't exist until the next game is just...I can't think of the word. Nitpicky? Wrong? Speculative? I wouldn't note it or worry about it at all.--Otherarrow (talk) 23:59, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, it was your decision. Personally I think it can fit as Jahn was left for dead when Dragon's King was slain, and then left for dead as the temple was sealed up. Due to this, I personally think Jahn missed out on the existence of the Dragon's gate. Emperor Hardin (talk) 00:37, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but that is too speculative to put into articles. It makes sense, don't get me wrong, but yeah.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:10, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Class Pictures
I was thinking with the class pictures in the galleries we should probably only use the unique models rather then al the head or palette swapped models. For example, we can get rid of the Brady, and Laurent pictures in the Berserker gallery, but keep a picture of the skinny model, and large model used by Basilio. The Brady, and Laurent pages would keep the Berserker images in their character gallery. Emperor Hardin (talk) 20:14, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * It is true that we don't list every recolor, for example, on the class pages. So yeah, I see your reasoning.--Otherarrow (talk) 20:47, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Smash Bros character pages?
I think it's appropriate to make pages regarding smash bros characters from melee until marth or other fire emblem characters are completely cut, just information about their appearance in ssb, example: talking about mario or kirby, etc. About their role in subspace emissary and their match up with marth, ike, Roy, etc. Agree?
 * My two cents: I disagree with this.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 00:46, May 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't the Smash Wiki, so no. We already cover Marth, Ike, Roy, Lyn's, etc appearance in Smash Bros on designated sections of their respective pages. Everything else is outside our scope.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:46, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Featured Article
I know you said you do not like people bugging you about this, but we have not had a new featured article in over a year. Can you please put in the article the votes ask for?--Thenewguy34( Other ) 22:08, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think someone else said they'd take care of it? Then again, folks say a lot of things. Is the template even locked? EDIT: As one vote was invalidated due to lack of signature, the vote is tied anyway.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:24, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Routine Cleaning
Could you please clear out Category:Pages proposed for deletion? Most of superseded files are from the image improvement project not too long ago. There's also an unused redirect I fixed and superseded categories there as well. Thanks! Otherwise, I've been fixing little things here and there. My backlog of edits has slowly been whittled down to a more manageable amount, still working on that, and on what I can catch on things as they come in. A little at a time.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 10:50, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism
One of our vandals are trying to disrupt my page on the Wiki, please, block him. (seriously, I'm ridding us of many problems) http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.106.197.225

DozlaOP
Hey there Otherarrow, my name is Bruce (DozlaOP) and I'm new to this wiki and I'm still getting into the swing of determining what information is useful to post on this wiki. I've been noticing recently that you've been deleting a lot of my edits on the wiki. To be fair, I'll admit that some of these edits were useless and just clutering up the page more (like my "contrbution" to the orion's bolt page) However, things that I legitimately feel were not at all clutter, and had no negative effects were being deleted as well, specifically the recent strategy posts I made. I would very much appreciate it if you would explain why these things were removed, as I see no real reason why they were in any way detramental to the pages they were on.

Thank you--DozlaOP (talk) 11:51, May 13, 2014 (UTC) Bruce (DozlaOP)
 * Oh, those I couldn't tell what you were actually saying because your grammar was terrible. Work on that please? A strategy is of no use if the reader can't tell what it actually says.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:09, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for responding so quickly. I really wish to make contributions to the wiki and I'll work on improvig it in the future.--DozlaOP (talk) 12:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)DozlaOP

Uh...Not proving my point very well with the misspellings in that last comment, but you get the idea. I'll work on my grammar.

Random Question
For FE1 and 3, do they take priority in canon, or do their remakes? ~ Hyper  Zergling  12:03, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think they contradict each other over much. For stuff like the curse of the Emblem, we just note both versions and leave it up to the reader to decide.--Otherarrow (talk) 12:15, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Golden Ticket Contest
Hi there! Wikia is excited to announce our Golden Ticket contest, the winner of which will win an all-expenses paid trip to E3 2014 in Los Angeles as the biggest fan there to represent the massive Nintendo Wikia community. Please feel free to enter the contest yourself! We’d also appreciate it if you’d let your community know about the contest.

Due to the narrow timeframe for the contest, I took the liberty of adding a right-rail badge to your main page that links to the sign-up page. Feel free to remove it if you want, but I think it'll be a good way to let your community know they have a chance to represent your community at E3.

Thanks, and good luck!

Mhadick (talk) 22:41, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Gerome Page Vandalism
Lately there has been a lot of trolls vandalizing Gerome's page with Batman related edits. You should probably lock it because it's becoming a hassle to constantly undo. -Nauibotics (talk) 11:38, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

Impersonation
Hey Arrow, it seems like someone called Crea756 was trying to vandalize DozlaOP's talk page by impersonating you and a King Marth guy? He put for "your" comment:
 * "Please try to work on your Grammar.  It's simpily awful, and makes things very hard to understand.  PLEASE... --Otherarrow (talk) 16:09, July 1, 2014 (UTC)"

and for the King Marth guy:
 * "Ok, first off, stop being so rude.....--  King Marth 64 (talk  • other wikis• blogs)   20:19, December 31, 2013 (UTC)  ".

Just wanted to inform you in case you missed it. --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 01:00, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Edit: Ok, dug a bit deeper into this Crea guy and it turns out someone called Pontifex Morva impersonated you on Crea's talk page, with Crea editing the comment a bit for spacing. Here's the edited (for spacing) comment:
 * "Oops! Please don't post on other people's talk pages without permission, thanks!--Otherarrow (talk) 17:42, June 30, 2014 (UTC) "

What's with this guy and faking users? --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 01:05, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * PontrifexMorva is a troll who's been banned (twice now even), and he was trying to start shit. Crea is probably the same, if not outright a sock for PontifixMorva. Guh, I thought I was done with this guy.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:21, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, someone called King Marth 84 tried to impersonate King Marth 64 and left this message for me (they're on your talk page as of right now too):
 * "Hi I have received report that you have tried to impersonate me and vandalize talk page please stop this is fraud thank you I will report to Otherarrow if it occurs again -- King Marth 64 (talk • other wikis• blogs) 21:11, July 1, 2014 (UTC)"
 * Do they think people don't know what the edit history is? Urgh. --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 05:28, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Edit: The same guy (King Marth 84) was on DozlaOP's talk page, leaving this as King Marth 64:
 * "Hi please work on grammer it makes things difficult to understand thanks you --  King Marth 64 (talk  • other wikis• blogs)   23:06, July 1, 2014 (UTC)"
 * I'm getting suspicious that King Marth 84, Crea, and Pontifex Morva are all the same person. Is it possible to check? --Bettafishrule2579 (talk) 05:33, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't the first time something like this has happened. Guh, I forgot what I did for that though... I'll ask around with folks who know this kinda stuff.--Otherarrow (talk) 14:16, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Affiliations
Hello Otherarrow, I'm Lumoshi, an admin at Fantendo. If this wiki does affiliations, can we be affiliated? --  Lumoshi    (talk)    23:45, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do we do affiliation? I never thought about it to be honest. Thanks for the thought though, all the same!--Otherarrow (talk) 00:32, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Genealogy scripts
Is it all right if I start making Script pages for Genealogy of the Holy War, as with some of the later games? I'm not sure how to create the pages, but I'd be happy to fill them with info. Quan of Leonster (talk) 03:03, July 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see any problem. If you need any help, feel free to ask!--Otherarrow (talk) 03:05, July 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Okey dokey, thanks. So, uh, how do I start? Quan of Leonster (talk) 03:11, July 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, there's a nifty little 'Contribute' button at the top left. What wonders we discover when we open our eyes... Quan of Leonster (talk) 03:32, July 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Top right. Wow, nice one, me. Quan of Leonster (talk) 03:32, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Hey OA!
Hiya, OA! I just wanted to see how you were doing, making sure you were okay and such. Haven't seen you around for a while, and I was just a little concerned. You've been on the recent changes here today, so I guess you must be okay, which is good to know. See you around :D Jimcloud 23:18, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh thank god it's Jimette, I was afraid it was people moaning about the Robin thing some more. Aww, thanks for checking up on me! I've been fine. I just...keep getting distracted with other things to go on the IRC. Sorry sorry.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:22, July 19, 2014 (UTC)

Kudos
Obviously I dreaded the day that discontent with the whole "Hey, why is the page Avatar and not Robin???" would bubble over as soon as word came that he/she would be in SSB4 as "Robin". I read everything and your rebuttals, and I guess I just wanted to say I was a impressed at the way you put your foot down and championed good policy over "the people have spoken", at least in this case. But yeah, good thing we have the disambig page for the FE2 char. vs FE13 default name, yeah? It went overlooked for a long time, kinda like the Hawkeye one. Kudos.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 06:36, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

FE Hasha no Tsurugi Endings
Okay, before acusing me "making up" a character ending, here are some pages from the manga with framed characters ending...

"Does he ACTUALLY have a ending framed like the character endings in the games, or are you just summarizing the end of the manga?"

"I seriously have no clue if you are just summerizing the end of the manga, or if they actually have character endings. From how Tiena's seems to have stuff taken from manga panels, it's the former. You shouldn't "make up" fake character endings."

"OK I ain't stupid. You literally just took the bit of the article telling the end of his story and claimed it was an ending."

I've show you enough proof now. It's up to you to decide since your the admin anyway.Hiruman (talk) 19:53, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Me being the admin don't mean anything in this context. I apologize for my rudeness, but...well, you gotta admit, I had reason to be suspicious: on one of the articles, you did just chop up part of the preexisting article then paste it under a "endings" banner. It kinda made the whole thing suspect IMO. So it was an honest mistake.
 * Also, in something that me being an admin does mean something in: learn to give your images proper filenames. Img000020 or whatever ain't going to cut it and I will delete that kinda thing by sight. It doesn't take much effort to name something "AlDragonLord" or something. I don't ask for super detailed filenames, but I should be able to tell what it is just from the filename.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:20, August 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Kinda lose my cool there. Yeah, I just knew that we must rename the image before posting. Hiruman (talk) 01:58, August 4, 2014 (UTC)

Just Popping In a Bit~
Howdy! How long has it been since I've been on this wiki? ^^;

In any case, I updated my User Page/Talk Page or whatever with a link to the FE12 data that I had for Base Conversations, so anyone can download the document and start that page up! Spread the word to others that may be interested like Aivass (I believe that was his name???) or whoever so that it can get done! Hopefully it helps eh? ^^; Xenomic (talk) 08:30, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I already made ALL of the charstat templates on my Sandbox, so be sure to check them out to make sure they are to your liking! I already notified Aivass of the gameplan here, and would like to hear any feedback on the templates too. They won't be installed until all of FE11 & 12 are fully done. I don't recall if I ever fully finished the character page template that's in the sandbox either, and I don't think I ever got feedback on the Item template in the Test Template page, and the item thingie in the sandbox... Xenomic (talk) 03:22, August 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * Popping in to remind you to let me know when you're done with the templates for FE11/12 so that the next phase of the templates can be implemented~ Xenomic (talk) 00:57, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. I forgot to move on to Mystery after finishing Shadow Dragon. My bad. (I am slow enough at this even before forgetting stuff. ._.) EDIT: I also forgot to start before it got too late. I'll pick up tomorrow.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:01, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

There you go, GBA template is up. Decided to get the big one out of the way next. ^^; Xenomic (talk) 01:11, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. You already did it. And picked the most time consuming one to do. It took me a week to do the DS one, how long do you think this will take? (I haven't even started! Real life has sapped the mood for wiki work). Thanks a lot buddy. >_>--Otherarrow (talk) 00:20, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, it seems Codefreak has been updating the pages for you for the most part (he may be doing it in an odd way, but it works nonetheless and nothing's breaking so!). So that's even less for you to worry about, you can PROBABLY leave it to him, if he has enough time to do the others. I could put the Gaiden one up and let you handle that one while he handles the GBA stuff? Xenomic (talk) 03:25, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Welp, since Codefreak finished up the GBA stuff so easily, I decided to toss in the FE1/3 template next~ Xenomic (talk) 04:13, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * For the love of Christ, could you please ask before you put this stuff up? If you just put it up, you leave us unprepared! I've been unable to even start on any of this because I haven't had the time! You disappear for months after FE4, but now you are trying to rush through them!--Otherarrow (talk) 12:31, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...Codefreak's been taking care of it all right now anyways, and I put it up BECAUSE he's been taking care of it, kinda like how he is right now. I wouldn't have put it up otherwise.


 * If you'd rather me NOT put up the templates, I can just leave and let them stay as they are. I don't appreciate getting my head chewed off like that... Xenomic (talk) 20:12, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but a lots been going on and I've been unable to actually work on anything, and I feel like you are rushing through this and I haven't had the time to do it! We are lucky that someone is around to do this, because if it was just me like it used to be, the GBA likely wouldn't be started, much less done. I haven't had the time! Sorry. I admit, I am not used to there be actual other users on this site.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:51, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if it feels rushed it's only due to it getting done is all. Again, I don't try to force anything on anyone (granted, starting with the GBA could've been quite disastrous, I admit. Though it'd have to get done sooner or later. Just didn't know that you were busy at the time, and didn't know that others would help on it. Glad they are though). Xenomic (talk) 22:56, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am glad we actually have editors. I dunno when he showed up, but I'm glad he's here. Sorry I snapped at you. A lots been going on with my end of the screen and I am just so used to having to do everything myself (probably to the determent of the wiki, as folks have pointed out that I am not good at this at all).--Otherarrow (talk) 23:02, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Undid trolling on various pages
I had to undo trolling and vandalism by an IP adress on the William, Nehring, and Ganef pages. Mastergabe2000 (talk) 02:38, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Removal due to "Tor"
Despite the fact that I'm using a Tor browser, I didn't see any reason to remove my legitimate image of the Gungnir as it's featured in Thracia 776. Not only that, you seemed to remove only the Gungnir image but not my Gae Bolg one. Is there a specific reason for that?--For NCR A Safe People is a Strong People! 17:46, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you are talking about. I removed it because the filename you gave was really crappy and not descriptive of the subject at all. Giving a passible filename is like super easy to do, so I generally have zero tolerance for this kinda thing. Sorry for the trouble.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:51, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I screenshot it and pasted it on an image with that file name. I forgot to change it so it's my bad. You still listed the reason of removal was because of my "Tor" browsing. Either way, it's a shame that it's removed.--For NCR A Safe People is a Strong People! 17:58, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what "Tor" is, so I probably just misclicked. If you still have the image, you can just upload it with a different filename.--Otherarrow (talk) 18:00, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Please Restore?
Could you restore Category:Pages proposed for deletion ? You accidentally deleted it.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 01:56, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I did? Crap, I did! Sorry about that. ._.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:46, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Long Time no See
Has it been so long? --Thenewguy34( Other ) 00:23, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I've always been here. Lurking. EDIT: Oh, you meant yourself! Yeah, it has been a bit, hasn't it? Welcome back!--Otherarrow (talk) 00:24, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

If you'd like...
Hi, I'm DancePowderer. I'm an admin on the One Piece Wiki and in my spare time I study linguistics as a hobby. Anyway, I came across this wiki's Runic page. I am self-taught in reading the Runic alphabet and am confident in my skill to do so. I'd love to help out with any translations you might need help with (if there are any). I hope to hear back from you, and by the way, that mystery word you mention in the picture on the Runic alphabet page says "Simong". I don't know what that means or if it has any special meaning in the game, I'm just telling you to show you that I'm serious about helping out. I hope this message finds you well. 06:59, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

FE3 Book!
Dunno if you keep up with Serenes Forest at all, but stumbled upon this earlier today. Perhaps these can be added to the wiki?

https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=bdf40fe52a17d017&id=BDF40FE52A17D017!6098

Someone scanned and uploaded these all recently it seems. Not sure WHERE they're from, except they're all from a book.

http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=50081

Xenomic (talk) 05:33, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * If it's an official strategy guide, then the art is free game for us, right? It is pretty rad art... (I haven't kept up with Serenes at all. I tried going back today actually, but got intimidated by everything. ^^;;)--Otherarrow (talk) 06:04, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it's official or not. I'd assume it is seeing as the art was done by...official people? I know one of the people did art for the Link to the Past book so I'm assuming it is. Xenomic (talk) 07:40, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hrm. Is there any way for us to check? Can the person who scanned it tell us?--Otherarrow (talk) 15:11, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Where I bought if from they said it was an official book, but because I don't speak Japanese or know what to look for, I can't confirm it."


 * That is what he said on Serenes. So is it a good to go to upload them to the wiki then? Xenomic (talk) 10:47, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

FE 5 stat template issue
It seems like something got messed up when adding the new stat templates for FE 5 characters (see here, for example). I'm not exactly sure how to go about fixing these, but I wanted to bring it to your attention since it's a rather widespread issue. Mikario (talk) 22:02, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems like Xeno applied the new template...while neither he nor Codefreak was around to actually properly impliment them on the pages, as the code for them is different from the old pages. Look at the code similar templates for FE4, 3, 13, etc and you should be able to fill it in if you want to. I can do it myself if need be.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:18, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

Huh...I remembered Codefreak working on it, but I think he stopped when he was being told how to do things properly and whatnot? Dunno how long ago that was, I figured that it was already finished by now. Oops...as for TRS, no idea if I'll be working on that one or not. I COULD whip up a template for it I suppose if it's really needed badly, but that's up to you guys. I still have other templates in mind too, depending on what everyone thinks is needed for new templates and the like. Xenomic (talk) 22:51, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * That is weird. Well, if he isn't around, it can't be helped. I'll get on it. As for TRS, it is the only game without a "new" stat template. What other template ideas do you have? More suggestions are always welcome, and hey, you know what you are doing more than me. ^^;;--Otherarrow (talk) 23:31, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you can see what I was thinking of doing with items on my sandbox. For the list of chapter pages, perhaps retool it so that it has an image of the start of the chapter or some such to go with it in a table? Think of like the List of Character pages, but with the image of the chapter at the top. Kinda like for FE11/12. Dunno how to handle it for any of the others). Need to also get all of the descriptions for weapons and items for the pages too, and probably set up a location pages for each game akin to how the FFWiki does it for each game.


 * I might work on TRS then if it needs done. Shouldn't take too long to do, but I'll handle that AFTER FE5 is fixed up. We also need to link to the parent articles in the templates (for instance, link to List of characters in Fire Emblem: Awakening from the template itself). Though do that AFTER you decide on what to do with the next suggestion.


 * We also need to figure out what to do with FE3/12 and FE1/11. I can see why they're together, but it clutters the template up quite a bit. It's easy to just replicate the template and add/remove things that way, and then have both templates on the page. Kinda like how FE9/10 does it IIRC?


 * Another thing that I feel would help a bit is setting a standard for the naming conventions of pages. I know that we have things like List of Fire Emblem: Awakening Classes and List of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance characters, but we also then have List of items in Fire Emblem: Awakening and List of weapons in Fire Emblem: Awakening. The naming convention is not proper and should probably be fixed. I vote for how the FFWiki handles it myself, but that's just me (so something like "List of Weapons in Fire Emblem: Awakening". Or at the very least go with "List of X in Fire Emblem: X" format). That's just me though.


 * That's everything I can think of right now. I would ask around on Serenes as well as others here what they think should be done too. Helps to have multiple opinions on the matter Xenomic (talk) 01:30, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * The item table looks nice. It shows what games it appears in, what it does and how many uses it has, how much it costs, and where to get it. I can see that being very helpful.
 * Yeah, a look at the chapter map would probably be best for the List of Chapter pages, but having the whole map might bloat the page. Not every page uses the minimap though. Ah well, we got thumbnails, so this is a nonissue.
 * Yeah, we need to get FE5 done too, and...this probably sounds shitty considering how much I bitched and said it was embarrassing, but my motivation is drained and I don't feel up to it tonight. Tomorrow maybe. Sorry. :(
 * Hrm. On one hand, being able to link parent articles in templates is very good. On the other, yeah, having the remakes with their originals kinda kills that and clutters the template up. But for all but like ten characters each, it's two near identical templates. Guuuh. >_>
 * Oh, yeah. I never noticed that. Wow, the inconsistent names are really shitty looking. "List of Thing in X" does sound more elegant to me, yeah. We really need to get to work on getting this all straight. I should really sort those out.
 * Thanks for all the suggestions. They are all good ones. You can ask on Serenes, but I am not sure if they'd be willing to help, especially since I failed to do the other things they asked, like make the wiki not suck and find a purpose aside from doing what other sites too.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:06, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like to be involved in helping both of you in these matters. I have quite a bit of feedback and input I'd like to share. I have worked extensively on this sites templates, as has Thenewguy34, and I feel I'd be very helpful if I add my voice to the tackling of these requests and suggestions.


 * As an aside, though, I wasn't aware of this wiki sucking. I've seen others and I think we have collectively done a great job over the past ten years. I mean, I know there's more work to be done, but we've come a long way.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 20:16, January 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Also, Xenomic, there are several suggestions and potential insights I'd like to discuss with you before the item template roll out. Much, much easier to get it right at this stage of rather than, say, after it has been put on all applicable pages, and then realizing oops. Working hard to save up some free time to I can elaborate and help you with these projects. I'll keep you posted.--Aivass Remurias (talk) 12:32, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I fixed Ced's FE5 stat template. Use that as a reference for other pages. --Thenewguy34( Other ) 12:02, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

The Spriters Resource
http://www.spriters-resource.com/

"The Spriters Resource" Do you know?.--Nemesislivezx (talk) 09:27, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

An Anomaly
When I was playing the chapter Scorched Sand in Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones yesterday, I noticed something that we had previously not picked up, and this was evident because I had to start the chapter three times because two of my characters got KO'd: the characters that re/join you, at least in Hard Mode, are subject to a slight stat deviation of what he have listed. If Knoll has 21 HP as his base, he might have 22; if he has 0 luck at his base, he might have 1. If Duessel has 17 defense as his base, he might have 18, and so on. Yet, we have not picked up on this. It is possible that there is additional stat deviation on other characters, at least in Hard Mode, that I have not picked up on. Should we mention this anywhere on our wiki? --Thenewguy34( Other ) 12:01, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * If we can figure out what's going on, if it's hard mode or what, yeah, we should mention it.--Otherarrow (talk) 19:38, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Olivia's Page
There's been an anoynous user vandalizing Olivia's page over the past three or four days. Just thought I'd let you know.—Nauibotics (talk) 23:02, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Tellius character pages
Why not have two tabs for the Tellius characters' official art? One for Radiant Dawn, one for Path of Radiance. It's annoying to have to scroll all the way down to the gallery to look at their PoR artwork. Oil_Rope_Bombs  Converse  14:04, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

I like how the other wiki displays one of their official arts randomly, and which game it is from is labelled undertneath. (Example, on one refresh, you'll see Alm's DLC art, refresh again and you might see his FE2 art) Though I think tabs for all cases like this is a good idea. 67.233.107.12 17:41, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, I am surprised we didn't think of it. I guess that would answer the question of what art to stick up there. The randomized picture, I've never seen. I like the tabs since they let viewers see each incarnation at will. I wonder what the other editors think?--Otherarrow (talk) 00:03, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks Otherarrow. I know I've not been active one bit, but thanks for getting rid of Devil. He was a real pain and he's the reason I practically had left this wiki. So yeah you're pretty much my favorite user on this wiki. And thanks again! Jai Pathak Talk    20:51, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Looking for work
Hey, what's new? I feel like doing a bit of editing these days. It's been so long, I have no idea what needs to be done. Anything needs particular attention that I can work away at? 13:47, March 6, 2015 (UTC) 13:47, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * The only thing that comes to mind is implementing the new Thracia 776 stat templates on the rest of the pages. (Use Leif as a code example), which someone started and never finished. Then I started, but never finished due to real life issues and work at another wiki taking my attention. Sorry to feed you my leftover tasks though...--Otherarrow (talk) 18:25, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I'll plug away at that every now and then. Thanks, 20:29, March 6, 2015 (UTC) 20:29, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Weapon pages
Why don't we have an "In-game description" on the tables to the right (in weapon pages)? It can be useful information. Oil_Rope_Bombs  Converse  07:57, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good question! I know not every game has such descriptions (for example, I think the GBA games only note if they have special effects), but for the ones that do, it's a good idea! I think Xenomic was working on a new item template, so I'll shoot the idea towards him the next time I talk to him.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:32, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

Some suggestions
So what do you think? I just joined recently but I really wanna help ^^  Khang (talk to him)
 * 1) Regarding Talk pages : I dunno if you didn't know or you knew but you don't want to have the Message Wall feature. I believe it's more easier to discuss with Message Wall feature cuz you will get notifications for incoming messages and messages are easier to read also.
 * 2) Regarding Forum : same as above, I think the new Forum feature have a more user-friendly interface so that we can discuss things more effectively.
 * 3) Regarding Featured Article on main page: I guess you guys haven't time to take care of that right? And some people might be too lazy to vote for an article or no clue about how to vote... So I suggest changing that section to something random like you get a different Article when you refresh the page.
 * I've been on Wikis with the message wall feature, and it's really just the same thing, but more cumbersome and harder to use. If you are messaged on your talk page, you get a notification all the same (I mean, I was notified of your message after all). Sometimes, simpler is better.
 * No one uses the forums anyway, and the few who do never complained. I don't see the point in sprucing up a ghost town.
 * That could work, but we'd have to do write ups for multiple articles that'd be in rotation. We could start with the old featured write ups, but eh.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:33, March 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, if that's what you think about the features, I'm fine with both =D...But why is it a ghost town? =.=
 * I can help gathering the old featured write ups but writing articles...uh, English is not my first language so I believe I shouldn't or I can't =] --- Khang (talk to him) 01:11, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good question. I guess folks have no reason to use the forums? Maybe there isn't enough folks to really bother? We never been particularly active. ^^;;
 * It's OK. I think we can just work on getting the old featured article write ups from the history first, and work on adding articles as it comes around.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:18, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll start gathering old articles right away. Come and check things if you're unsure I did them right =]. --- Khang (talk to him) 01:44, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Btw, can you remove the Archived Polls link under the poll section on main page? I'll make a more beautiful one xD.--- Khang (talk to him) 01:48, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * When bringing up the old featured article blurbs, do remember to update names and terms for when those have been changed. It's kinda embarassing to have a Featured Article rotation refer and link to an outdated name, you know?--Otherarrow (talk) 03:42, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I have done with 4 articles, come check them for me. If you think I did right, I'll continue =] --- Khang (talk to him) 03:47, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * They look good, though I had to fix the Raquesis one for the above mentioned reason. I also dunno if we should trim or add to them to have a set length. I notice that, for example, the Sacred Stones blurbs are twice the size of the Genealogy ones (though I had to trim Raquesis's due to it being basically her opening section without any edits. At least with the others, I was able to frankenstein something more informative than just the opener (though with Arvis, I think I had to work to avoid spoilers too, hense the shorter length)--Otherarrow (talk) 03:53, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * About updating names, I'll keep that in mind. About the trimming or adding to the articles, I guess I can't help with that. =/ --- Khang (talk to him) 04:03, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. Most of them are acceptable, and no one complained. I just get self conscious seeing blurbs of noticeably different sizes go up, or in the case of Arvis, with no actual story info due to avoiding spoilers (I fixed that, though it's probably obvious the bit I added due to how poorly written it is compared to the rest). Thanks for all the help btw! I never would have thought of this, nor known how to actually do it. ^^;;--Otherarrow (talk) 04:15, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm just glad I could help a bit ^^ I actually have known this wiki for long ago but at that time, I had no idea how to help out xD. --- Khang (talk to him) 04:19, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Some guy keeps vandalising Chrom's page. Can their IP be blocked from making edits or something?

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Chrom?s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=233715

Nehpets7000 (talk) 23:47, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

User Issue
Sorry to bother you, but an anonymous contributor keeps on undoing the work I've been doing for the Fire Emblem if page and has been deleting my talk page a few times. . Thanks—Nauibotics (talk) 06:19, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * edit Well I guess we can figure out that that anonymous contributor and Kagamiwaseda are the same person reverting my edits and deleting my talk page.—Nauibotics (talk) 06:25, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Correction on Nauibotics comment. Nauibotics keeps undoing the work I've done on the Fire Emblem if article - 7 times so far. I have warned him to stop, but he ignores the comments. Thanks. Kagamiwaseda (talk) 06:23, April 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry again Otherarrow. I believe that the main issue with my edit war with Kagami has been settled peacefully for the most part. I'm sorry for the trouble our situation may have or will cause you. Other than that, my only issue with him is that he deleted my talk page, though he stopped afterwards and did not do it again. I'm not gonna be too uptight about it, but just thought I'd let you know. Again, I'm sorry for what had happend between Kagami and I—Nauibotics (talk) 07:27, April 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there, I'm glad you guys solved things peacefully, please stay calm and keep helping out this wiki. For the love of FIRE EMBLEM ^^ -- Khang (talk) 09:37, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

New Design
Hey I'm Ultra from Smashpedia (the Super Smash Bros. Wiki). While exploring some of the wiki's based on characters in Smash Bros, I came across this wiki. If you want I could give this wiki a new design based on If and help update the site. If this offer seems appealing, just hit me up with a responce. TheUltraman (talk) 00:54, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * You mean like redesign the front page? Well, what did you have in mind? You can make a mock up and show it to me first.--Otherarrow (talk) 00:58, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's cool, sprucing up the main page would make our wiki look more sexy xD. I'll think of something too ^^ --  Khang talk 15:16, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about updating the main page (see Smashpedia's front page), a new background with the Hoshido and Noir on each side, and an updated logo based on Awakening/If. TheUltraman (talk) 23:03, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if a page based solely on a single game would be very efficient (for one, it'd be dated after the game comes out, especially with SMTXFE also on the horizon), but, I repeat, show me what you actually had in mind. Make a mockup main page in your sandbox or something of what you have planned and show it to me.--Otherarrow (talk) 23:11, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * No the page wouldn't be based on just If, I'm talking about the design to be based on If. Here is the design test that I made up http://ultramantest.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity and you can check here for what the main page would look like http://supersmashbros.wikia.com. TheUltraman (talk) 23:38, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * The background seems pretty good, and much better than what we have. So I approve. As for the main page design, well, hrm. The Smash Wikia's design sure is sleaker, but I am not sure how that kinda format would translate out to our wiki, due to the difference in content and the scope of our games. Do you have an idea on how you'd make a version for our wiki's needs, or is it just "make it like SSB Wikia" ?--Otherarrow (talk) 00:46, May 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Here, my design for the left column, what do you guys think? --  Khang talk 05:27, May 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Khang, I really like that a lot. It's a huge improvement to what we have now. User:Tiero (talk)Ephraim (Lord).gif 14:36, May 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, glad you like it ^^ I'll be sprucing up the right col as well. If you have any suggestions about the design or if it needs some improvements, please do tell me =] --  Khang talk 15:17, May 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it looks fine. I'll have to see the right and how they look together, but it looks good so far.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:17, May 5, 2015 (UTC)


 * It would be something unique for the FE wiki and not a rip off the SSB wiki, but that would be the general template used. I see that Khang has already made a fantastic main page, so we could use that instead. Since you like the look, I can add it to the FR Wiki if you give me administrator abilities for a moment. Other then that what do you think about adding a forum section? TheUltraman (talk) 19:38, May 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, no. I am not giving anyone admin rights out of the blue. Once the design is finished, I can add it myself, but thanks for the offer. Anywho, we already have a forum section, and it gets no use as it is, so no need.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:36, May 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * The design is finished, go ahead and add it. Also you guys have the old forum section, if you went to your wiki's controls you could update it to the newer forum section that is more visible and could allow for more conversations. TheUltraman (talk) 20:02, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Where is the new design again? You didn't link anything. ^^;;--Otherarrow (talk) 20:13, May 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, I thought I gave you the link from the start. Anyway, here it is:. Btw, I merged the Others section with the Categories as Non-gane content, hope you don't mind. -- Khang talk 23:58, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * One snag before we can implement: The "main series" template just lists all the games in a straight line, and thus cuts into the right column and continues well beyond it. That won't do...--Otherarrow (talk) 02:08, May 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, that...I did it in purpose, I thought making it so will give us a more exciting experience to browse the main series rather than fitting them into the page's width and shorten the page also. Or shouldn't I? =/ -- Khang talk 03:04, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no. In actual implementation, it just breaks the page and looks awful. I'd divide the games into rows.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:14, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * 'kay then, I'll fix, gimme some time.
 * There, what do you think? --  Khang talk 04:04, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks good, though something sporks up the Monobook skin (which didn't spork up when I tested it before the fix). It's possible that I imputed some code wrong, so if you could double check it for me, that'd be great. ^^;;--Otherarrow (talk) 04:40, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * EDIT:Yeah, I sporked up the code. I fixed it.--Otherarrow (talk) 04:44, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Great, I'm glad to see our wiki's new face ^^ If you need anything else, don't hesitate to tell me =] --  Khang talk 04:48, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

You can change the background and the wordmark into them via the admin's tool Special:ThemeDesigner. —  Khang talk 16:13, May 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is the finished design. http://ultramantest.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity TheUltraman (talk) 13:13, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the design, but, aheh...I don't know how to actually add it myself. ^^;;--Otherarrow (talk) 20:52, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Here are the images by ultraman (I made some adjustments to the background image to make it fit better): Background.jpgWordmark.png
 * OK, yeah. Background image? Got complaints. The Aqua artwork has a very unsubtle pantyshot from how high cut the slit in her dress is, so I had to remove the background in the name of good taste. My idea, to salvage it, is to just use the other Kamui (which is likely what we should have done in the first place, tbh).--Otherarrow (talk) 05:44, May 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I have thought of that but...I can't help myself haha ^^ Anyway, I've replaced a new one. Check it out ↑
 * Btw, can you add this to the javascript page, I find it really useful since our content pages are pretty long:

importArticles({  type: 'script',   articles: [  "w:c:dev:BackToTopButton/code.js" ]}); —  Khang talk 09:51, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

I like the main page you did! Good job! (n_n)b --The Tomato Fairy (talk) 06:28, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, glad you like it ^^ —  Khang talk 09:00, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Fire Emblem if issue
Hey otherarrow, we have an annonymous user [] who keeps on adding Felicia to the Hoshido section even though most of us on the wiki have told them that Felciia has no confirmed affiliation yet. He's been doing this everyday. Do you mind banning that ip so we don't have to keep on reverting it? Thanks—Nauibotics (talk) 08:37, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Request
Hello again, I have a request this time: I wish to become an admin here. I want to revive this "ghost town" and make it livelier (a place where people can discuss, or share their thoughts about Fire Emblem rather than just reading and editing). And I'd love to spruce up this town also, with some knowledge of coding of mine. And sorry for not being here sooner to contribute much. I hope you consider my request. Thanks =]  Khang talk 14:49, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ghost town? While not the most active wiki, it does seem pretty lively considering FE isn't a first tier Nintendo series.
 * Second, well, as you mentioned, you are a relatively recent user, so I need to know you are reliable and around for the long haul, won't abuse your powers, etc. I won't just give anyone admin rights after all. It's a powerful tool that can be easily abused.
 * So what ideas did you have? Aside from "new forums"? I tried implementing the new forums on another wiki and it got no real increase in social activity.--Otherarrow (talk) 20:10, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * To be honest, the level of activity here has been consistent for the past number of years for the wiki to stay active. While Aivass, Engweimin, and I may not be doing as much as we used to do, we have completed most weapon and character articles, which made up the bulk of our contributions. Also, we need breaks as well, so you cannot expect everybody to always be contributing. We have lives that we ourselves want to live, so you cannot possibly expect us to always be making 10-30 edits a day like we used to make. --Thenewguy34( Other ) 22:34, May 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * It's good that you have the drive to make changes, and have enthusiasm over wanting to make this place better.


 * But I second over waiting. Once you turn into an admin, the only thing that changed over there is being able to edit the theme more freely, CSS stuff, upload 10 images at once and block/ban people, and appoint mods. At the end of the day you're still a normal contributor. I also second over not accepting requests over wanting to be an admin for the wiki, either. Seeing there are more than one contributor who edit the wiki, this is far from dead (and I edit a wiki where it's really rare to get contributors. To increase the participation, one has to initiate, you know?
 * What things can you do by having these benefits, by being an admin? What do you want to implement? Coding skills are a good thing to have, which is one of the reasons that I am, kind of, eager for you to be an admin.
 * But it's not that he doesn't trust you, or think that you'd abuse it. But we need to err at the side of error. If you think you can contribute and offer a lot in the wiki, be more consistent over it. Request more CSS changes, talk more. Most of the time, admins are very eager to share their knowledge and friendly towards fellow editors.
 * (Also, yeah, I have a life too. As much as I want to edit and help out with wikis, I can't do it every day of the week, I have other things I want to do.) --The Tomato Fairy (talk) 22:58, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah well, I understand the responsibilities of being an admin. Sorry that was too impatient of me, I guess it takes time to gain trusts, so I'll just keep helping out with editing. Thanks for consideration. And I'll go into details about what I said above later.  Khang talk 01:18, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry.
I'm sorry about causing you all the work on the Fire Emblem if characters-it just looked weird for them not to have a section of their own. I'm new to the fandom and wiki and so I'm very sorry.

Suzubelle-chan (talk) 00:11, May 23, 2015 (UTC)Suzubelle-chan
 * Oh, no, you did nothing wrong! It was right of you to add them to their own categories like all the others. The thing I was removing was sorting them by faction, as that is something that we don't really do. Keep up the good work!--Otherarrow (talk) 01:16, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

?
Hi, it's me again, can you reduce the protection level of the character template? I have some minor adjustments to do (categorizing, make it look like other infoboxes).

And I'm thinking of displaying the main series on main page like this. What do you think? -  Khang talk 00:19, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, sure thing. Done. Dunno why it was protected anyway.
 * Hm. That's a neat idea. Reduce the size of that left column at least, wow it's longer than the other, at least in Monobook.--Otherarrow (talk) 00:47, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

I take that you agree with the idea? Then let's do eet ^^ /* Arrow for scrolling */ .arrw { background: linear-gradient(transparent 40%, #bbb); display:inline-block; } .arrw:hover { background: #bbb; } .arrw:active { background: #999; } $('.left').click(function  {    scroll = $('#scroll').scrollLeft;    $('#scroll').animate({'scrollLeft': scroll-600},800); }); $('.right').click(function {    scroll = $('#scroll').scrollLeft;    $('#scroll').animate({'scrollLeft': scroll+600},800); }); And leave the rest to me. I might bother you again in case something doesn't go right ^^ --  Khang talk 02:53, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Place this in the CSS page:
 * This in the JS page:
 * Alright, done.--Otherarrow (talk) 04:06, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * There, it's not perfect but still better huh? ^^ --  Khang talk 05:30, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * The "second row" consisting of solely if looks really bad to me. A lot of white space under all but one game on the first row. The rest of it looks good though. Can we have it all on the first row?--Otherarrow (talk) 06:07, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, I'm afraid I don't quite get the "first" and "second row" you're meaning =/
 * Ah, nvm, I understand now, it's cause of the screen size...I'll revert it back until it's fixed --  Khang talk 06:31, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay there, how is it now? Any problems remain? --  Khang talk 15:17, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems good. No problems that I can notice.--Otherarrow (talk) 16:25, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Nav template links
Hm, the links to navigation templates to view or edit is no good? I saw you removing them... --  Khang talk 00:17, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, for one, they didn't fit inside of the template. I know they can work (other wikis use them) but as is, they didn't work.--Otherarrow (talk) 00:45, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Urgh, I'm confused, are we gonna use them or not? --  Khang talk 01:02, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * We are, we just need to get them to actually work.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:09, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

I see, gimme some time to fix that.

Hm...I failed to see what didn't work... -- Khang talk 01:20, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * How strange. Is there CSS into it that the other wikis have that we don't maybe?--Otherarrow (talk) 11:45, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * EDIT:You got it to work on the BS template at least. (OK, good thing you didn't call it that.) DOUBLE EDIT: Yeah, you got it to work!--Otherarrow (talk) 11:46, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

That's good. Xenomic actually already created the template to link to template. I just made use of it =] --  Khang talk 11:53, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Wiki navigation
Hey, it's just me again ^^ this time it's about the wiki navigation, I think we should do something about it. Here's the suggestion (feel free to make any changes if needed):
 * Fire Emblem (series)|Games
 * Japan Only
 * Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryū to Hikari no Tsurugi
 * Fire Emblem Gaiden
 * Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
 * Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
 * Fire Emblem: Akaneia Saga
 * Fire Emblem: Thracia 776
 * Fire Emblem: Binding Blade
 * Fire Emblem: Shin Monshō no Nazo ~Hikari to Kage no Eiyū~
 * Worldwide releases
 * Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken
 * Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
 * Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
 * Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
 * Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
 * Fire Emblem: Awakening
 * Fire Emblem if
 * Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem
 * Related Titles
 * TearRing Saga: Utna Heroes Saga
 * TearRing Saga: Berwick Saga
 * Super Smash Bros. Brawl
 * Super Smash Bros. Melee
 * Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U
 * Advance Wars


 * Content
 * 1) category-Characters#
 * 2) category-Enemies#
 * 3) category-Classes#
 * 4) category-Items#
 * 5) category-Weapons#
 * 6) category-Locations#
 * Special:Categories|more...
 * 1) category-Items#
 * 2) category-Weapons#
 * 3) category-Locations#
 * Special:Categories|more...
 * 1) category-Locations#
 * Special:Categories|more...


 * Project:Community Portal|Community
 * Forum:Index|Forum
 * Help:FAQ|FAQ
 * Featured Users
 * User:Semajdraehs|Semajdraehs
 * User:Otherarrow|Otherarrow
 * User:Aivass Remurias|Aivass Remurias
 * User:Engweimin|Engweimin
 * User:Aveyn Knight|Aveyn Knight
 * User:Charged151|Charged151
 * User:C13g3|C13g3

I see no problems with that. I don't use Oasis, so I probably just never noticed. Fixing.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:26, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, regarding the 'oasis' navigation, the Fire Emblem if is still staying unchanged, you might want to change it =]  Khang talk 15:51, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Stop playing God.
If you delete one of my messages on the talk page I'll stop contributing. I was talking about how the origional system, and that doesn't even have a verification. Don't be so cocky.
 * Excuse you. You were basically adding forum discussion to a talk page, which should be about improving the page in some manner. In this case, you were complaining about how they totally ruined things by changing the weapon triangle. Such discussion goes on the forums, specifically, here. Also, playing god? Really? Also also, sign your posts.--Otherarrow (talk) 03:18, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

"New" Classes
So I take it, from the Pegasus Knight page, that we're gonna add all of the "new" class equivalents are getting added to those pages?—Nauibotics (talk) 06:05, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Problems on the wikia that I cant fix alone...
I have noticed a few problems on the wikia that have been overlooked, and that I cant fix alone:

-Stats for Thracia 776 characters are missing.

-Overall sections for certain characters, like Seliph and Kurthnaga, are missing.

LittleEngines747 (talk) 14:17, June 22, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747
 * I'll help out whenever I have time ^^ Khang   Talk   14:40, June 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the new Thracia stat templates have been incompletely implemented for some time, the person who was going to do them suddenly left without warning, and my fiance and I keep getting caught up with other things before we can get to it. As for Overalls, if you have played those games, go ahead and add those sections.--Otherarrow (talk) 18:56, June 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't mind doing it if you need someone, whenever I have some spare time (starting tomorrow), Summer holidays start tomorrow for me, anyway.
 * DronagonFE (talk) 20:38, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for offering to help, you guys! You can look at one of the completed pages (such as Leif) for how the template fits together and all. Sorry for the trouble, and thanks again.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:00, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Hi I just want to ask why I couldn't put the classes list on the fire emblem fates page like in the fire emblem awakening page and please don't think i'm angry about i'm new to this wiki that all.

Thank you for your time and please answer on my page soon

P.S Those classes that are listed have been confirmed by the trailer below

Nohr - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL7LLfSiOmQ

Hoshido - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o23gCLGJ5AU

BlackRose WitchX (talk) 20:18, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was unaware it was on the Awakening page either. Probably added during the pre-release hype. Not sure if we should keep it now that the game is out. Also, huh, so it is! My mistake! Sorry about that, I legit forgot what I saw in the trailers.--Otherarrow (talk) 20:59, June 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for listering to my question or is it reading any way I thank you for reputing the classes list and answering my question i hope that we can contiue to help each other


 * BlackRose WitchX (talk) 00:20, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

About the translation pages
I've been adding a bit to the translation pages of FE1 and FE8 and I've noticed there a 'menu' section on both of these pages. (actually, I'm pretty sure they're on every translation page) What exactly should be filled in there?

DronagonFE (talk) 21:13, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Menu? Hrm. I think those are like, the options in the menu, like Move, Item, Attack, Save, Wait, End, etc?--Otherarrow (talk) 21:15, June 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * So ingame options for your units and on the map, and not things from the starting menu of the games like new game, restart chapter, ect right? or those as well? ^^
 * DronagonFE (talk) 21:23, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Honestly don't know. Can't hurt to have both?--Otherarrow (talk) 21:30, June 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * All right then, thanks!
 * DronagonFE (talk) 21:32, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

New TCG
In the event that you haven't seen it yet, here's a link to the new TCG stuff: http://kizunafe0.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-4.html

High-quality and everything. I don't know what does what, would have to check SerenesForest for that since they've been working on that. But thought I'd toss this your way, seeing as I don't do much here nowadays (I've been doing a bit over at the FFWiki, but even there I'm starting to dwindle in activity. I only work on 3 games that are all on mobile, and that's it). You may be able to coerce someone into making the TCG page and adding the images there, or at least uploading the images and putting them on the various character pages, I suppose. Xenomic (talk) 09:46, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

What do we do about the doppelgangers?
With support conversations revealing that Lazward, Odin and Luna don't just look like Inigo, Owain and Severa but actually are Inigo, Owain, should we merge their pages à la Camus/Zeke/Sirius? Or should we pull a wait-and-see approach? Are You Serious (talk) 19:27, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I already put up merge templates, citing Camus as precedent. So I'm just waiting to see if others agree.--Otherarrow (talk) 19:31, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with merging. They confirmed that they are the same characters and like you said, we got Camus/Zeke/Sirius as a basis for it as well as Devdan and Danved. I dunno if you saw my post in the other thread, but we should make a separate page for their battle quotes given the sheer volume of their Awakening and soon to be Fates battle quotes.—Nauibotics (talk) 19:34, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * BTW, should we isolate the bulk of the inheritance pages (at least the overview and reclassing sections)?—Nauibotics (talk) 22:21, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I dunno. On one hand, yeah, they are rather large, but on the other, I doubt Fates will have equivalent sections of the same size, due to the three being "normal" characters in Fates. Whichever you think is best for the page.--Otherarrow (talk) 22:29, June 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, we can at least put the overalls into separate pages. Those are the bulkiest of the three and are subjective at best (I know because I wrote most of them). Like you said, they're "adult" characters in Fates. Plus they have fixed growths and only two classes in their sets.—Nauibotics (talk) 22:39, June 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Unlike you three, I don't buy these things as easily. I say we wait until the English version is out before we pass final judgement. I've currently restored the pages for Lazward and Odin and said that it is speculated that the doppelgangers are actually the people they're doppelgangers of. Since the Luna page was deleted, I can't restore it and add the part about the speculation. About that A-Support, for all we know, that could be someone's fanfiction masquerading as an official Support Conversation. --JolteonUltra (talk) 16:21, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * There are pastebins out there because people have already stated to rip the game for data. The Supports was in one of those pastebins. Likewise most of the games sprites were ripped as well. It's why there's already a vague idea of what the third path is about. Also, there's some website out there that has the voiced conversation where Luna asks the Avatar to call her by her name Serena. Like the Generic Units. Here's the link to the Serena one.--68.44.85.183 18:04, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no. We have lots of hard proof (from the Luna/Severa quote, to translations of amiibo dialouge with Lucina where she refers to all three by their Awakening names, to summaries of their supports, etc), from multiple unrelated sources even. The only way it be a hoax is if a bunch of unrelated people from across the Internet were all part of a conspiracy...to connect three Fates characters to the three Awakening characters who they pretty much nigh identical to (hell, two of them even have the same class and name origin. It's not a well hidden secret). There is being skeptical, then there is being in flat out denial.--Otherarrow (talk) 18:55, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Wait what? I almost forgot something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exWvgUf2L3w

I just let you know to apolozige to this.

Please what this, it's horrifying!

BTW, I'm sorry! But someone edit the Inigo page about his father? Please undo this?

Aabarro 13 10:41, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Please help me here...
I need help with having a link to my user page in my signature again...

LittleEngines747 01:35, June 26, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747
 * Just sign with --~ instead of trying to be fancy. I guess you can also link User:LittleEngines747 manually I suppose.--Otherarrow (talk) 01:43, June 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * How do you link it?
 * User:LittleEngines747 [[File:Animation_Roy_Master_Lord.gif 01:46, June 26, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747
 * With brackets? Like this ? You were able to link a gif, but you can't link your own username?--Otherarrow (talk) 01:47, June 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * I cant stop laughing at my silly little mistake XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
 * User:LittleEngines747 [[File:Animation_Roy_Master_Lord.gif]] 01:51, June 26, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747

Adding stats to pages
For adding base and max stats to classes or characters (are both needed?), is there a template to use or can you use text? If it's a template, how can you find these or what are they called?

Example for stats which I've seen around a lot: Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (as headline, but I removed it so it doesn't become a headline on your talk page)
 * HP: 52
 * Str: 20
 * Skl: 20
 * Spd: 20
 * Lck: 20
 * Def: 20
 * Res: 20
 * Mov: 5

Thanks in advance! DronagonFE (talk) 14:52, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * For characters, we got the Charstat templates. The only game where max stats would be needed is Awakening, but if I recall, the way it works is that each character has modifiers to their stat caps which are added to the stat caps for the class. Because of this, listing the caps per character is unneeded, as long as we have the modifiers. But base and stat caps for classes, yeah, we do need those. You can use text (as you see, we currently do), but a template probably should be made for each game in the future to make it more presentable. For the time being, yeah, as long as the data gets on the pages. Sorry if I am not much help.--Otherarrow (talk) 17:13, June 26, 2015 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you!

Spoilers for Fates
Hello, sorry for bothering you once more.

I wanted to ask, are you allowed to post spoilers about what happens to the characters and such, or are we supposed to wait for the Western release? I personally try to read the least amount of spoilers as possible till then, but I've seen various contributors adding spoilers and while others are constantly undoing them. DronagonFE (talk) 17:54, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't really see the harm in it, since a lot of the Fates articles are pretty barebones without them, but I can see why folks wouldn't want to see spoilers. I'd try to keep them to the Profile subheading unless it's unavoidable (like the returning Awakening kids), so that folks can skip. I think we have a spoiler template too?--Otherarrow (talk) 18:23, June 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't seem to find the template, but I remember we had it a while ago. (I'm pretty sure there was, but that might be on another wiki.) I do think it would be better to either protect some of the pages for now (either with or without spoilers on) or place a warning again before the spoilers, because people are constantly editting the same pages. DronagonFE (talk) 19:16, June 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * There used to be a template at Template:Spoiler but according to the deletion info, it was apparently agreed upon that no spoiler templates were to be used. Is that still valid in this case since that was decided over 7 years ago though? Kimlasca warrior (talk) 19:22, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think restoring the spoiler template and having it be used solely on a "new game info" basis would be best. Just flat out locking the pages is a bad idea, since we got a lot of info coming in. (Also wow, that long ago?). The template is a bit basic and needs some updating probably though.--Otherarrow (talk) 21:05, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism on Pages
I want to know why wiki a fans are allowed to edit wikia without joining because the majority just vandalise and then everyone has to revert it back. Examples are Lucia page deleted, Youko joke and the recent Blarth for Leo and Takumi saying it wasn't his fault. IMOGs are appearing too. Just wanted to know why they're allowed to edit if they can' the identified. ajitunes13.

Help
Can you ban this ip 90.204.28.45, he's vandalizing all the pages and I can't undo them because he's spam editing them 5-6 times making it impossible for us to undo them. Can you also lock the pages so only registered people can edit them? Thanks for your time. Funds (talk) 14:07, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

It really is getting annoying, I can't even revert what happened on the Fates Avatar page. ajitunes13.

Maybe Trivia
I notice that the recurring characters and look alike characters where voted as one of the top favorite characters of Fire Emblem: Awakening. Could that be a trivia?

Banskipping vandal on the loose.
An anonymous, banskipping vandal (107.145.255.150) is vandalizing the ryoma page. The reason why I am saying he is banskipping is because he renamed ryoma to the lobster lord. An actual user did this from what I saw on the IP block list, so this anon might be him. please block his IP.

User:LittleEngines747 17:58, July 1, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747

why did you delete the timeline page?

Does FE:Fates really take place on Jugdral?
I noticed a page on this wikia that stated that Fire Emblem: Fates takes place on Jugdral...

Then again, I do have a hint, with an unforged dark tome on the nohr side being called "Mjolnir" and apparently having high might...

Could you please explain the truth? Does FE14 really take place on Jugdral?

User:LittleEngines747 00:22, July 10, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747
 * Having Mjolnir in the game does not mean it's Jugdral. That tome was in Awakening but it had no connection to that series either. Unless Tyrfing or some other key Jugdral weapon was in the game as an important story weapon like the Falchion was in Awakening, it's no more than an assumption without actual in game proof.—Nauibotics (talk) 00:28, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Mjolnir in Awakening was implied to be the Mjolnir, being a A rank tome in the hands of the Deadlords (who's only prior appearance was in Jugdral) and with the other Holy Weapons, and Jugdral and Akaneia are on the same world canonically...but the Mjolnir in Fates is basically a high end Thunder tome and from what it seems has no plot fanfare. Which wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened. Like, take Excalibur" it's been Merric's personal tome, a legendary tome, a powerful but otherwise unnoteworthy lore-wise spell, etc. (Also, Mjolnir isn't a Dark tome in Fates. Despite the Nohr Tome user being Dark Mage, the Nohr tomes are almost exclusively what would be Anima in other games. They likely chose Dark Mage/Sorcerer over Mage/Sage for flavor reasons)--Otherarrow (talk) 01:23, July 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the other crusader weapons are hiding in the invisible kingdom, and perhaps there are einherjar-like units that are recruitable in the end...
 * I dont know, to be honest. It would be neat to find out that this, for real, is Jugdral, at least, once we get a picture of the shape of the whole continent, and we just dont have that yet.
 * User:LittleEngines747 [[File:Animation_Roy_Master_Lord.gif]] 11:57, July 10, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747

Some weird Barbarian things

 * The Barbarian animations in New Mystery seem to be based off of the Bandit model from the Tellius games. The critical attack, style of axe holding, and attire(baggy pants, sandals headband, and Widows peak).
 * In FE4, Barbarian and Brigand have the same stat caps, and base stats despite having different sprites!
 * In FE4's sprites, The Brigand is a shirtless, lean, muscled guy guy wearing some sort of overalls with one strap. While the Barbarian is a stoutly muscular fella with a full body tunic, no pants, and green hair.
 * In Thracia 776, the Brigand battle sprites from FE4 are modified to wear a bandanna among other things to become the Berserker class battle sprites. They are even more modified to be the Hunter class battle sprites, the original hunter in FE4 was just a Bow using Warrior with a different palette. While the FE4 Fighter sprites ends up becoming the basis for Thracia's Bandit class sprites, the FE4 Barbarian sprites are not used again! Emperor Hardin (talk) 20:24, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Which Archetype For Garon And Iago??
I have noticed that Iago of FE:Fates Seems to fit the Ephidel Archetype, because although he is a manipulator, he is under the command of another manipulator (Garon).

I have also noticed that both Garon and Anankos both seem to fit the Gharnef Archetype, since both are LARGE-SCALE manipulators.

User:LittleEngines747 02:43, July 17, 2015 (UTC)LittleEngines747

TCG Original Characters
Hi, is you guys gonna create the page for the two original chars of new TCG? http://serenesforest.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/cipher-stream-06.jpg
 * Yeah, we will. We just need to actually know who these guys are. This is the first I've heard of them myself!--Otherarrow (talk) 00:37, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

What qualifies as Creature/Monster
I'm curious would Phantoms qualify as Monsters and/or creatures given their status as undead Ghosts? Additionally do Degenerated Dragons go in the creature category, I'm considering it mainly because they're no longer sentient? Emperor Hardin (talk) 02:16, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes on both counts, probably. Wyverns are on the Creaturenav, yes? Degenerated Dragons belong on the Manaketenav, at the very least.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:37, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks! Where should I put Phantoms, and Degenerated Dragons in the [creature navigation box]? For the Dragon navigation box, I'll just put Degenerated Dragons in the related terms section. Emperor Hardin (talk) 03:50, July 23, 2015 (UTC)