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Fighters vs Axe Fighters

I don't know if any more discussion needs to made, but I figure there's good reasons for both keeping Fighters and Axe Fighters separate and merging them.

Separate: Mainly because the class names are distinctively different. Yes, they are both "fighters", but the extra word matters.

Merge: The two classes are practically the same class- both primarily axe users with similar promotions (Warrior, Hero/Mercenary). Which is probably the same reason why the FE5!Sister is included in the Shaman page.

On a similar note, I think Bow Fighter definitely needs to be made separate from the Archer class. Since FE4 and FE5 already have Archer classes, which are either enemy-only or unused. Aveyn Knight 20:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


FE8's promotion of Fighters into Heroes has nothing to do with FE5's Axe Fighters promoting into Mercs, it's just a coincidence because Heroes needed another class to promote from. Take a look at every fighter that has been in the series, they're all bulky men, and their battle sprites reflect it. Take a look at Othin and Halvan, they are NOTHING like the Fighters we have seen, they are just slightly more built than their Sword Fighter brothers, because wielding axes makes them tougher because they are heavier. Fighters are very slow, and their animations show this. Axe Fighters are only slightly slower than Sword Fighters, and they fight very similar, with speedy animations rather than slow ones. And most of all, Axe Fighters promote into Mercs, not warriors, the biggest difference that separates them. Is Dagda a merc? No? Is Dagda a bulky man? Yes? If Dagda wasn't already promoted, he would probably be a Fighter.

Bow Fighters aren't much different from Archers to make it worth separating them. Marth Koopa 20:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

OK. Biggest hole I can see is that the Axe Fighter under the Axe Fighter name is not Thracia exclusive, Johalva is also a Axe Fighter, and he looks suspiciously similar to the Fighters of other games. (I suspect the change in Thracia was made because they looked too much like Bandits, but that is just me speculating) Also, Dagda is irrelevent here, his Warrior class is a promoted Bandit, which is not an Axe Fighter. As for Bow Fighters and Archers....How can they be the same thing when they are different classes in the same game? (As Aveyn Knight noted, they are unused in Seisen no Keifu and a enemy exclusive class in Thracia 776)--Otherarrow 20:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Dagda is not a bandit, as you should know in FE5, more than 1 class can promote into the same class (Machua, for example), he fits the Fighter type more than the Bandit type. Show me the official Nintendo translation that calls Johalva an Axe Fighter. Right, he's a Fighter. Bow Fighters and Archers are the same thing, they don't have any differences like Fighters and Axe Fighters. Marth Koopa 20:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Asking for offical Nintindo translations for anything other than Characters, nations, and a few key items is kinda pointless, as they have no translation for the like because there is no need for it. Also, in Thracia 776, the Bandit class promotes to the Warrior class, the only classes in the Jugdral games who can promote to more than one class according to character promoting are Mages (Mage Knights and Mage Fighters) and Sword Fighters (Swordmasters and Heroes).
Look for yourself: http://serenesforest.net/fe5/class_intro.html --Otherarrow 20:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
So we're basing our stuff on FAN translations, OK then... Yes, the Bandit class promotes into the Warrior class, but if there were any playable Fighters, they would also promote into Warriors. Dagda would definitely be a Fighter if he wasn't already promoted.
Because there is NO OTHER translation maybe? If they released FE4 and FE5 internationaly, why did I not hear of it? Also, note that the "Fighter" class does not appear in Seisen no Keifu or Thracia 776, which is likely due to the fact that having a class called "Fighter" alongside all these Bow Fighters and Sword Fighters would be odd. Also, Dagda is an ex-bandit, thus if he was not already promoted, he would likely be a bandit.--Otherarrow 20:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Right. Keyword being EX-bandit, he would be a Fighter if not already promoted, because Dagda being a measly MOUNTAIN THIEF like Marty just wouldn't fit him. Marth Koopa 21:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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