Does this character really qualify as Black Fang? The guild was abolished in the story way before you fight her, she serves Nergal more than she has involvement in the Fang. Sonia fits the category better anyway, and I'm doubtful whether she counts because her only connection was her marriage to brendan reed.--Sen Toshi 15:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I think she does as it was the morphs entering the black fang that caused it to fall apart anyway + she is shown commanding black fang units at points in the game.--Semajdraehs 15:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... And possession, it is said, is 9/10ths of the law. You have a point. It might be a matter of opinion, so I'll go with that until the wiki is more complete and there is time to debate over such things.--Sen Toshi 15:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, but on morphs. I've been interested in this since the creation of Sonia's page. Morphs are recycled quintessence, though not technically human. Is there enough of a difference to classify "Morph" as another species?--Sen Toshi 03:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

writing a page on morphs entitled Morph and categorizing it as a Race would be a good idea, after doing that i think we should categorize the Morphs as ... Morphs.--Semajdraehs 07:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


Why does the article consistently refer to her as 'it'? I was under the impression that Limstella was definitely a female.The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

It is unknown if morphs truly have genders. (I think thats why)--Semajdraehs- any replies to my Talk page 09:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Besides, I believe the official character book lists their gender as unknown, while it lists Sonia's gender (and etc).--Aveyn Knight 12:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I think this article should refer to Limstella as a female as the game does, because using "they" everywhere makes it sound like there is multiple Limstella's running around.2604:6000:1415:8066:0:BDC4:4A2D:1837 03:36, December 11, 2017 (UTC)
Limstella is canonically genderless (or at the very least ambiguous), to the point of being the only Cipher card that doesn't list a gender. Referring to them as female would be flat-out incorrect, and singular "they" is perfectly acceptable grammatically. To my knowledge they're never referred to as female in the original Japanese game either, it's simply a localization oversight. Bananasa (talk) 14:32, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

I looked through the game script, and couldn't actually find a single instance of the game using female (or any) pronouns when referring to Limstella. Maybe I just missed it, but I went ahead and removed the references to this for now. Would be nice to have a direct quotation before we add it back. Bananasa (talk) 19:36, February 17, 2018 (UTC)


The article states that she feels sadistic pleasure, then shortly later claims that she doesn't. That's a bit awkward...--Brainwasher5 (talk) 03:19, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

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